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NASB | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God. [Ezek 36:25-27] |
Bible Question:
Hank, Have you ever heard of Justin Martyr, Polycarp, Tertullian, Origen, Clement, Cyprian, Read their writings, they all agreed saved by grace through faith at baptism. The Nicene Creed, written prior to the canonization of the Bible in 325 AD states "one baptism for the forgiviness of sins". The Nicene Creed also established the doctrine of the Trinity(I assume you believe in that)My gosh, the guys who decided what books go in the NT all beleived water baptism as essential to salvation. My challenge to you is this, quote me just one guy, a priest, church historian, Pastor, elder, deacon, a slave, a roman pagan, just anyone at all who lived in the 1st or 2nd century who believed in "faith alone" apart from baptism, just one. |
Bible Answer: First ... "g**h" is a slur on God's name .... Teaching one truth doesn't mean you are always correct. I'll say again it DOES NOT matter what the early church (fathers) believed, not those who chose the NT books ... it matters what the BIBLE SAYS. Scripture has been pointed out to you to show you that baptism does not save ... but, it is faith alone. Plus we have refuted all Scripture that those believe in baptismal regeneration use. They also said that Christ died on Friday - and they are wrong. |