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NASB | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God. [Ezek 36:25-27] |
Subject: 1st 400 yrs. "all" agreed on John 3:5 |
Bible Note: Greetings Dalcent! You wrote: "Note how Mommabps never addressed my question why baptism is a work and praying the born-again prayer isn't. Or how she can't understand why I think baptism appropriates the blood of Christ, and is not contrary to the atonement. The depths of ignorance displayed by some makes me want to weep for them." This paragraph is a clear indication of why she hasn't responded to you my friend. What is the point? You respond to our polite posts with insults, not dialogue. You also wrote: "All my bibles reflecting the scholarship of hundreds of qualified Greek scholars disagree with your "translations." Have you any qualifications in Greek to back your rearrangements of scripture." I would dispute that I have 'rearranged' Scripture, but I do in fact have qualifications in Greek. I studied it for several years in college and have been actively translating it for about 15 years now. If my approach to Acts 2:38 was unique or novel, I would certainly be concerned, but there are certainly Greek experts who would agree with me. Whether you do or not is certainly your choice! :-) Now, I do not have a thin skin. So, I will not hold any grudges against you my friend, nor will I respond in kind to your insults. However, I would certainly urge you to engage in dialogue, not name calling. It has been my experience over the years that name calling begins when someone can't win a debate. There is certainly room for both disagreement and dialogue my friend. Someone with as much education as you profess to have should know this. For instance, Gal. 3:27 could be a reference to water baptism, but it could also be a reference to the baptism of the Spirit. If you disagree, you should state your reasons and listen to mine. We may never agree. However, to simply ignore my position by ridiculing it is not scholarly, nor is it polite. There are many people one this forum with whom I don't always agree but for whom I have great respect. One of them is your Catholic brother Emmaus. He and I have debated issues in the past. We have shared our reasoning. We didn't always come away agreeing with one another. But, not once, did Emmaus ever resort to name calling. It is my hope and prayer that you will be a valuable member of this forum, but 'study' requires dialoge my friend. We can all learn something from one another if we will actually listen to one another. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |