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Bible Question:
It is such a good idea, though. One would think that the originators would be willing to make some slight adjustments in order to accomplish the goal. The idea, as I understand it, is that someone should be able to go to any verse in the Bible and see what questions and comments have been made on it. Even here one would hope that a slight change can be made, to allow people to reference a passage (a range of verses) rather than a single verse. The idea of having monitors has been suggested, and it is one that might be considered by the owners. Obviously there are some who would oppose the idea and even try to prevent it from getting to the decision makers for consideration. They want everyone to be free to say almost anything and unless it crosses some line (of vulgarity or obscenity, I guess) it is allowed to stand. There are some who come down on certain types of posts, yes, but it seems to be almost another law of the jungle, where the strong hound the weak and run them off. Meanwhile, all the posts remain. We do not even know if the original intent was mischief or if their problem was timidity. Yet, the owners want a growing commentary on the Bible. I am sure they also wanted an accurate translation of the Bible. Why not have a commentary which is useful and reliable? At least, let it not be confusing. In reading the threads even a neophyte is forced to either agree with one side or to throw his hands up in frustration and maybe, as in this case, depart in confusion. Of course, there are those who like it the way it is, and are glad to make up their own mind or agree with the kings of the jungle. But how can the owners of this forum be confident that they have given folks the truth? It may be good to let the experts work together and give us one set of renderings. But someone does not have to proffer credentials in order to be allowed to pontificate here. Nor is anyone disqualified for asking silly or useless questions. Criticisms are given, but they go both ways. Error stands with truth. The purpose of this forum is a noble one. I wonder if there is anyone who thinks it is being realized. But not really, I am sure there are those who think so. But in my heart there is an ache for people such as inmyheart who come by looking for answers and then move on. Or maybe they do not move on. I see that that person went on to decide who were giving the right answers and who were wrong. It has been pointed out that they were espousing a particular doctrine and that they had gotten into a huff when they were confronted. At one point they are listed among those are “very knowledgeable of the Word and very spirit filled”. What’s all of that about? The person who came on as a learner had decided that he was an expert after all, and others were recognizing his as such. Again the law of the jungle. One can work one’s way up the food chain. I am aware that there are those who wish that Aixen would move on. But he comes back to plead again with his brethren, moved by some spirit that leads him to notes like the one that began this chain. As he said, there is an apparent need for authoritative answers somewhere. Why not here? At a Bible publisher’s, why not here? He has suggested that there is a need for agreement among those giving answers. Not that they have to give one answer. Not that their answers will represent one denominational viewpoint. Everyone must be aware that there is a group here whose members support each other. And they give good, Biblical answers. This in spite of having come from different backgrounds. I think it is the same for Bible translators. I suggest that this program be set up so that only those people (those judged to be sound in doctrine, apt to teach, etc.) can provide answers. Everyone else should be limited to asking questions. As always, anyone can preface his question with statements or opinions. But in the end, unless he belongs to that select group, he should have to fill out the question box. That way, visitors will know that his statements are not authoritative, but the group will answer his/her question. In the end, it seems that we need to not only talk about the Bible but also to practice the Bible. And where in the Bible is there this kind of free-for-all exchange of ideas? There have been prophets, and apostles, and elders. There were also false prophets and false apostles, but they were not allowed to write and publish their writings as scripture. They were also not allowed to add notes to the scriptures. Why shouldn’t Bible publishes take the same care today? OK. I know there is an answer. There is a counterpoint to everything that has been said here. But there are also inmyhearts coming on. They could have searched the Bible for themselves, but they are coming here. I think they are looking for clear answers. |
Bible Answer: Aixen7z4 Myself and many others have made impassioned pleads to Lockman to incorporate many of the ideas you touched upon. In defense of Lockman the cost or expense to incorporate them makes them not feasible or they are technically impossible to do within the present framework of the forum. Also the cost of converting the forum to a more receptive format is again is prohibitive. As far as picking a handful of “Experts” while it seems to be a good idea, because we all come from different backgrounds and different denominations it quickly becomes evident that if you have 10 experts you will have at least 11 different opinions of any particular scripture. Alas the forum far short of what many of us had dreamed of when Lockman announced their plan nearly three years ago. I like you envisioned a running commentary that one day could be used as dependable reference on nearly any verse or passage of the Bible. Instead it is a collection of good, bad and in some cases really stupid commentary. It contains opinions, prejudices, false teaching, correct teaching, malicious teaching, healing teaching and teaching straight from the pit of hell. Since there is never a conclusion or a summary the only way one can come to any conclusion of the discussion good or bad is to read all that has been written and form some opinion based on what was said. Unfortunately many times the worst or lousiest teaching sounds the most convincing and I fear many have left the forum with terrible theology. Education or experience does not define or guarantee the correct understanding of the Bible, nor does the warm fuzzies that many feel are sure sign they are on the right track. The true meaning of each verse of the Bible must stand upon every other verse of the Bible. As long as people freely say, this writer didn’t mean thus and such or this is only talking about people in that society, or that was custom of that society and doesn’t pertain to us today or this was only the writer’s opinion not God’s teaching or this word doesn’t mean that it really means this. You will always have these differences. Only one time in church history did nearly everyone hold to the same doctrine and that was destroyed by the reformation. EdB |