Subject: Hebrews 6:6 explained |
Bible Note: Hi Tim, Thanks for your post. "...he doesn't cite a single verse which speaks of God rejecting any of these other nations." He cites Psalm 147:19,20...He declares His words to Jacob, His statutes and His ordinances to Israel. He has not dealt thus with any nation; And as for His ordinances, they have not known them. Praise the LORD!... I think it can be reasonably deduced that His choosing of Jacob and His not dealing with any other nation proves (by default) His rejection of all other nations. We know of no other pagan culture that contained any remnant of the true faith. If there were spontaneous eruptions of Biblical faith, why have they not been recorded either in scripture or in history (Aside from Abraham himself). (Tim)"While there aren't any verses which rules out the salvation of the other nations, there are plenty which speak of God's mercy being extended to all nations." The implication of the above statement is that God employs means of salvation apart from His Word and extraneous from His Church. Who needs to penetrate the jungle? The Holy Spirit will supply the Gospel message Himself! Show me the beef Tim. Where is the evidence? Gen 22:18 and Matt 24:13; mean that before the end, every tribe and nation will have the gospel preached in their midst. What of those who expire before they "have an opportunity to choose". Please don't tell me that every single human has had the gospel revealed to them unless you can offer absolute evidence. Acts 4:16 is an arguement agaist youself: " "In the past, he let all nations go their own way." Going there own way is the same as saying He let them go to Hell! Rom. 16:25 - "Now to him who is able to establish you by my gospel..". But because you believe we can be lost, how can you believe this verse? Rom, 16:25 "...has been made known to all the nations," is also at odds with your theolgy concerning the term "all". Paul was not claiming that all thenations of the entire world had recieved the gospel, was he? Rev. 15:4 - "...All nations will come and worship before you, for your righteous acts have been revealed." This verse also fails to prove the universal proclamation of the gospel to each individual. And of course, the kicker is John 12:32 - "But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself." Sorry Tim but your kicker is more akin to a "pooch punt". In context: John 12:20 "Now there were some Greeks among those who were going up to worship at the feast; these then came to Philip, who was from Bethsaida of Galilee, and began to ask him, saying, "Sir, we wish to see Jesus." Philip *came and *told Andrew; Andrew and Philip *came and *told Jesus. And Jesus *answered them, saying, "The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified." It isplain that "all" in vs 32 means "jews and gentiles alike". (Tim):"I simply don't see any verse in the Bible which says that God does not intend to save all or that He withold the possibility of salvation from anyone or any nation. Not every nation has a Bible, nor does every nation have a preacher, but the Holy Spirit draws and convicts all." Dan 4:35 "All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, But He does according to His will in the host of heaven And among the inhabitants of earth; And no one can ward off His hand Or say to Him, 'What have You done?' God Bless John |