Subject: Hebrews 6:6 explained |
Bible Note: Greetings John! See, these are the kinds of comments to which I was referring. You wrote: "Do you mean to imply that Judas was one whom the Father gave to the son (I feel as if I'm entering fantasyland). Post me asap and tell me I'm mistaken!" If you disagree that John 17:12 is a reference to Judas, then simply lay out your case from Scripture. Here is the verse: "While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled." Every commentator I have ever read (and that is quite a few) has seen this as a reference to Judas. If you disagree, that's fine. There really isn't any need for heat. Both Calvinism and Arminianism are within the veil of othrodox Christianity. If someone were proclaiming heresy on the forum, I would be the first to join in (politely), but firmly, calling them to justify what they are saying from Scripture. But, the differences between C and A are not differences between orthodoxy and heresy. At least, they have not been historically seen as such! So, take a deep breath! :-) Now, explain to me why John 17:12 isn't a reference to Judas! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |