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NASB | Genesis 2:9 Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Genesis 2:9 And [in that garden] the LORD God caused to grow from the ground every tree that is desirable and pleasing to the sight and good (suitable, pleasant) for food; the tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the [experiential] knowledge (recognition) of [the difference between] good and evil. [Rev 2:7; 22:14, 19] |
Subject: Do you believe in being chosen? |
Bible Note: Why do you insist on playing symantics? Wish, will, want ... it amounts to the same thing and doesn't change the point. God doesn't want anyone to perish. God doesn't will that anyone perishes. God doesn't wish for anyone to perish. If he doesn't want it, wish it, or will it, but proceeds to make a decision for the eternal well-being of an individual before they are ever given an opportunity to make a choice, then he is ultimately condemning people without a chance. This is contrary to his will, wish, or want. He doesn't want anyone to perish, but he's going to harden some hearts so they will regardless? He doesn't wish anyone to perish, but he's going to see to it that they do anyway? He doesn't will anyone to perish, but that's just too bad, because He's not going to choose everyone? Some are just out of luck? My point is based on sound logic, and also based on sound scripture. At this point, I choose not to look up all the relevent passages because I get the feeling that they are just going to be disseminated in turn by symantics and opinion, and a valid point is going to be dismissed yet again. I won't lie. I'm getting irritated. I've made valid points on several subjects, and it seems like I'm talking to myself. As soon as a topic comes close to a conclusion that isn't what someone likes, the topic gets restricted. Is it because I am being argumentative, or is it because someone else is being stubborn and unbending? I really don't believe I'm being argumentative. I'm ready to leave this forum. I feel like everyone just wants to hear what they want to hear, and that's a waste of time. If we aren't going to take things to conclusion, concede when someone presents a better point, and otherwise seek the truth instead of individual points of doctrine, why bother discussing this stuff at all? Theo-Minor |