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121 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140684 | ||
EdB, Now that you have mentioned Luke 3:36, I see that you have discussed this before. I will check out the website that Tim referenced at: http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/3748.asp Thanks, Pastor Glenn |
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122 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140817 | ||
No, It appears more likely that we have cirtain translations of Luke that have the extra name "Canain" inadvertantly added: http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/3748.asp Pastor Glenn |
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123 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140836 | ||
"I prefer to believe that we have at least one extant manuscript with the right original words. Is there any ancient manuscripts that leave out the name Canain? " Yes, this is what the article says: "... A clue to the solution is that the extra Cainan in Genesis 11 is found only in manuscripts of the LXX that were written long after Luke’s Gospel. The oldest LXX manuscripts do not have this extra Cainan." Have you read it closely? See it at: http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/3748.asp Pastor Glenn |
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124 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140846 | ||
Hello EdB, http://graceandknowledge.faithweb.com/cainan.html: "However, Cainan does appear in the Greek Septuagint translation of Genesis: "Sons of Sem: Elam, and Assur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram, and Cainan . . . . And Arphaxad begot Cainan, and Cainan begot Sala. And Sala begot Heber . . . . And Arphaxad lived a hundred and thirty-five years, and begot Cainan. And Arphaxad lived after he had begotten Cainan, four hundred years, and begot sons and daughters, and died. And Cainan lived a hundred and thirty years and begot Sala; and Cainan lived after he had begotten Sala, three hundred and thirty years, and begot sons and daughters, and died." (Gen. 10:22, 24; 11:12-13) Although many Greek Septuagint manuscripts of I Chronicles omit the second Cainan, many Septuagint copies show the following: "And Arphaxad begot Cainan, and Cainan begot Sala, and Sala begot Heber . . . . Sem, Arphaxad, Cainan, Sala, . . . ." (I Chron. 1:18, 24) " This looks even stranger. Notice above, how the entire list of names are repeated. Am I looking at this the wrong way? Pastor Glenn |
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125 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140850 | ||
Actually it was Tim Moran that gave the link to that website in another thread connected to Luke 3:36 (Thanks Tim). Pastor Glenn |
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126 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140864 | ||
I understand your concern EdB. I just see a much more difficult problem in loosing the name Cainan from Gen 11. The way this is written, I think it is called a "double linked list" of names between verses. It would have to have been dropped from at least 2 verses (12 and 13) and the wording would need to change in those verses. Also, 2 other complete verses (13.1 and 13.2) would have been dropped. Gen 11 12And Arphaxad hath lived five and thirty years, and begetteth Salah. 13And Arphaxad liveth after his begetting Salah four hundred and three years, and begetteth sons and daughters. This is how it would have looked with Cainan inserted: 12And Arphaxad hath lived five and thirty years, and begetteth Cainan. (changed) 13And Arphaxad liveth after his begetting Cainan four hundred and three years, and begetteth sons and daughters. (changed) 13.1 And Cainan hath lived five and thirty years, and begetteth Salah. (dropped) 13.2 And Cainan liveth after his begetting Salah X years, and begetteth sons and daughters. (dropped) An inadvertent error in Luke 3:36 is one thing. But the changes to Gen 11 cannot be inadvertent. It would have to have been done on purpose. Do you see my point? "Let us not lose sight of a very important fact of this discussion that is the account of the Fall and the Garden of Eden was probably passed through Abraham’s generation but second or third hand knowledge of people that had talked to Adam. This is important since we see accurate secular history preserved from this time period thus giving us still another assurance of the accuracy of the Biblical account. " I agree. Pastor Glenn |
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127 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140909 | ||
Hello EdB, "The main thing that bothers me about the Cainan being added in Luke is that Luke himself apparently did in fact included it. Most give the reason for this as Luke copied the genealogy from an altered copy of the Septuagint. That is interesting but one would think that God being God and able to create the universe would have been able to insure his chosen writer, that was recording events for all of mankind, would have a faithful copy from which to take that Genealogy." The article at http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/3748.asp was written by Dr Jonathan D. Sarfati, B.Sc. (Hons.), Ph.D., F.M. ( He has written many apologetics books. I am impressed by his biography at: http://www.answersingenesis.org/Home/Area/bios/j_sarfati.asp) and goes to great lengths to show that the second Cainan was not in the oldest copy of the Septuagint or the oldest copy of Luke. As support to it not being in older copies of the Septuagint, they quote a study by Mr. Larry Pierce. Mr Pierce, in turn, studies secular ancient writings of Josephus (AD 37/38 – c.100) to show that the extra Cainan was not in Josephus’ copy of the Septuagint. Even though Josephus’ copy contained most of the same errors (100 years added to each person in the genealogy), the extra Cainan was still not there. "Another thing that bothers me very much about the inadvertent addition of Cainan into the Septuagint theory is the fact the Septuagint was in existence at the time of Jesus and in fact some scholars feel certain that Jesus quoted from it. In any case the importance of that work had to be known to Jesus at the time. If Cainan was in fact added into any copy as some claim the name was I would think Jesus would have said, "hey you guys messed up." I know many claim the addition of Cainan didn’t happen until later when Luke was writing his account. But that doesn’t hold up against the theory the name was added to BC manuscripts and Septuagint manuscripts to add length to the Jewish culture to match Egyptian culture." Mr. Pierce summarizes: "I think we have more than enough evidence that would stand up in any court of law to show that every single copy we have of the LXX text was corrupted some time after AD 220. The copies of the LXX available to both Josephus and Africanus did not include this spurious generation. It is also not in either the Samaritan Pentateuch or the Hebrew manuscripts… …All these predate the New Testament Greek text. …" EdB, when you say "…that doesn’t hold up against the theory the name was added to BC manuscripts and Septuagint manuscripts…", do you count the Samaritan Pentateuch or the Hebrew manuscripts? Happy New Year, Pastor Glenn |
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128 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140910 | ||
EdB, "Let me present this theory If Reese going back is fifty years later and your going forward is fifty years sooner. Perhaps the reconciliation is a missing GENERATION. Cainan if added would make Jacobs birth later thus reconciling Reese to your calculations that Jacob would have been fifty when Shem died." Since we must use the Hebrew scriptures as the final authority, then the secular sources are secondary and put into doubt when they do not agree. Gen 11 12And Arphaxad hath lived five and thirty years, and begetteth Salah. 13And Arphaxad liveth after his begetting Salah four hundred and three years, and begetteth sons and daughters. So there can be no doubt that Arphaxad was 35 years old when Salah was born. And Arphaxad lived 403 years after Salah was born. Every Hebrew copy of Gen 11:12-13 does not include Cainan. No one doubts that Moses wrote Genesis in Hebrew. While the question remains concerning why older versions of Luke 3:36 did not include the second Cainan, and later copies did; no dates (years) are available anywhere that can be used to account for when he was born or when he died. So even if we could determine that he did in fact exist, the frustrating thing is, we cannot use any known dates to change our count of years from Adam.[:-(] Pastor Glenn |
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129 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140916 | ||
"The argument for the majority texts is, the number of them carry the weight and since their in agreement it is safe to assume they are the most accurate. The counter to this is while they may be most numerous they could have their origin in one corrupted text. In many ancient secular manuscripts this has been seen over and over, so one has to ask could this be the case here." "Two or three witnesses" is biblically the accepted way to go: Deuteronomy 19:15 [ The Law Concerning Witnesses] "One witness shall not rise against a man concerning any iniquity or any sin that he commits; by the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established. "Since it has no real effect on the true message of scriptures one wonders if it isn’t just causing us to lose focus on the real issues of the Bible. " Amen |
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130 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140918 | ||
"However you working strictly on the age at conception and death going forward from Adam place Jacob at about 50 years old at the time of Shem's death. That difference is approximately one generation. " My point is that biblically, the years between Adam's creation and Shem's death is solidly 2156 years. The actual BC year can vary based on external evidence, but as you can see, I do have a real problem seeing flexibility in the scriptures here. So I guess I am missing your point on purpose. :-) Sorry, Pastor Glenn |
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131 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140919 | ||
EdB, Your right. Majority text is probably not as good as Majority "Sources" (Josephus, Africanus, 1Ch1:24, 2Ch, Targum, Beza’s most ancient Greek copy of Luke). "Sources" is probably closer to what is meant by "witnesses" in Deut 19:15. Pastor Glenn |
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132 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140923 | ||
EdB, I wanted to thank you for engaging me in this thread, as I have really learned a lot. I certainly knew nothing about the second Cainan. I hope that I have not said anything offensive. If I ever do, please excuse me. God Bless, Pastor Glenn |
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133 | Did Shem exit the Ark at 98, outlv Abrm? | Gen 11:10 | Pastor Glenn | 140946 | ||
Hello cast net, Great idea. Prayer is always in order. I notice you close with SHALOM. Are you a Messianic Jew? If so, I am glad to see that you love Jesus Christ. After all, the Gospel is to the "Jew first". Happy New Year, Pastor Glenn |
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134 | Decendents of Ishmael and/or Esau? | Gen 25:13 | Pastor Glenn | 79669 | ||
Is there any way to know which present day nations are decendents of Ishmael and/or Esau. Gen 25 13And these were the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: The firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth; then Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam, 14Mishma, Dumah, Massa, 15Hadar,[1] Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah. 16These were the sons of Ishmael and these were their names, by their towns and their settlements, twelve princes according to their nations. Genesis 36:43 Chief Magdiel, and Chief Iram. These were the chiefs of Edom, according to their dwelling places in the land of their possession. Esau was the father of the Edomites. Who are these nations today? Pastor Glenn |
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135 | Decendents of Ishmael and/or Esau? | Gen 25:13 | Pastor Glenn | 79677 | ||
Thank you EdB, Your answer is very interesting. |
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136 | Where did the jewish nation come in? | Gen 35:10 | Pastor Glenn | 59930 | ||
Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. Genesis 35:10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel. Exo 1:1 Now these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt; every man and his household came with Jacob. Exo 1:2 Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah, Exo 1:3 Issachar, Zebulun, and Benjamin, Exo 1:4 Dan, and Naphtali, Gad, and Asher. Exo 1:5 And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph was in Egypt already. Exo 1:6 And Joseph died, and all his brethren, and all that generation. Exo 1:7 And the children of Israel were fruitful, and increased abundantly, and multiplied, and waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was filled with them. Pastor Glenn |
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137 | "...sin against God?" | Gen 39:9 | Pastor Glenn | 102103 | ||
Notice Joseph's response to Potiphar's wife: Genesis 39:9 "There is no one greater in this house than I, and he has withheld nothing from me except you, because you are his wife. How then could I do this great evil and sin against God?" My question is on the last phrase "...sin against God?" By what reasoning or knowledge did Joseph consider adultery with Potiphar's wife to be sin against God? Notice that this was before the law of Moses was given. Pastor Glenn |
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138 | Christian Voting? | Gen 47:20 | Pastor Glenn | 132319 | ||
Christian Voting The question of Christian voting came up in another thread. At least one person expressed the question that we are not of this world so why should we vote? I wanted to point out the differences between our representative government and the most kingdoms (dictatorships) that we see in scripture. We are given a measure of ruler-ship (self rule) in the United States. Do we just throw that ruler-ship responsibility away? What if Joseph had thrown away his ruler-ship (Gen 47; Acts 7:10): Gen 47 6The land of Egypt is before you. Have your father and brothers dwell in the best of the land; let them dwell in the land of Goshen. And if you know any competent men among them, then make them chief herdsmen over my livestock." 20Then Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh; for every man of the Egyptians sold his field, because the famine was severe upon them. So the land became Pharaoh's. 21And as for the people, he moved them into the cities,[1] from one end of the borders of Egypt to the other end. First of all I wish to ask the question; aren’t we Ambassadors for Christ? 2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ's behalf, be reconciled to God. Also, we are “salt” and “light”, so I wonder what this scripture means to a person that thinks that he does not need to vote: Mat 5 13 "You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? It is then good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men. 14"You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. 15Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven. How does this reasoning affect how we rule our own households or churches? What can we say to our children that reject God in their lives? 1 Corinthians 6:3 Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? Any comments? |
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139 | Can someone explain this verse. | Gen 48:22 | Pastor Glenn | 94668 | ||
DarcyA, Sorry, but I can't find it in the bible. However, there is a controversial online book called the "Book of Jasher" that has a whole lot to say about that war. See chapter 37 at: http://www.nazarene.net/jasher/ Notice that no dead sea scrolls or other ancient documents have been found to authenticate it. So, believe it at your own risk. Pastor Glenn |
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140 | Why the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob? | Gen 50:24 | Pastor Glenn | 85233 | ||
beva, I like Jesus' answer as He biblically proves the doctrine of resurrection of the dead: Mark 12 26But concerning the dead, that they rise, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the burning bush passage, how God spoke to him, saying, "I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'?[3] 27He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living. You are therefore greatly mistaken." |
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