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1 | Is God subject to change? | Bible general Archive 2 | Morant61 | 102242 | ||
Greetings Cajam! We are agreed that God Himself doesn't change. However, in the case of Niveveh, His stated actions and intentions did change. He said that He would overthrow them in 40 days. But, when they repented, He changed His intention and did not overthrow them. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Is God subject to change? | Bible general Archive 2 | John Reformed | 102681 | ||
Dear Tim, The following passages show that repentance unto God is not a natural virtue, but a gift which is given to those of God's choosing. Does this fact affect your thinking regarding God changing His mind? Acts 5:31 "He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. (see Rom 9:6) Acts 11:18 When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, "Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life." 2 Tim 2:25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, John 3:27 John answered and said, "A man can receive nothing unless it has been given him from heaven. The reason I ask is, because our discussion has revolved around the question as to whether or not it was God's plan, all along, to spare Nineveh. Jonah must have thought that it was God's plan to show mercy and grant repentance, for he went to great lengths to prevent God from sending there. Jonah loathed the Ninivites. John |
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3 | Is God subject to change? | Bible general Archive 2 | Morant61 | 102698 | ||
Greetings John! Oh no John! I have went to great lengths to avoid going down that path! :-) Your not going to intice me there! :-) But, I will address your comments aobut Jonah. Jonah did not say that it was God's plan all along. He said that it was God's nature to show mercy. Here is what he said, in Jonah 4:2b: "... I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity." I still can't get my mind around a false statement being used to state God's intention. If God says He was going to do something, then He must have meant it. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Is God subject to change? | Bible general Archive 2 | John Reformed | 102703 | ||
Dear Tin, "Oh no John! I have went to great lengths to avoid going down that path! :-) Your not going to intice me there! :-)" 2 Tim 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; "Jonah did not say that it was God's plan all along. He said that it was God's nature to show mercy. Here is what he said, in Jonah 4:2b:"... I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity." Was this not the very thing that Jonah hoped to avoid...God's gracious granting of repentance which would lead to His display of patience, love and forgiveness? "I still can't get my mind around a false statement being used to state God's intention. If God says He was going to do something, then He must have meant it. :-)" Well Tim, we agree that God does not deal in falsehood. And we also agee that there is no such thing as "new information", where God is concerned, so there must be another way of looking at this passage. The alternative which I have offered have not been acceptable to you, therefore, I leave it up to you to offer one that I might find convincing . Your Brother in Christ, John |
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5 | Is God subject to change? | Bible general Archive 2 | Morant61 | 102708 | ||
Greetings John! I'm sure that you already know the alternative! God gives man the ability to exercise free will. His relationship with man is not scripted out in advance, though God certainly know the end from the beginning. But, His relationship with man actually occurs in time, not eternity. So, when God announced to Nivevah that He was going to overthrow them, He meant it. But, Nivevah repented, so God altered His relationship to Nivevah based upon their actions in time. Now, I'm sure you will not find this convincing simply because you don't believe in human freedom. But, the advantage of this approach is that I don't have to take a statment of fact and say that God didn't really mean it. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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