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1 | Is God subject to change? | Bible general Archive 2 | New Creature | 102560 | ||
Dear John You asked what do I believe about Acts 4:28-29 Acts 4:28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done. Acts 4:29 And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word, I believe that the determination of God to do something, even the predesting of things is based on His foreknowledge. By that I mean I believe foreknowledge precedes any predesting.(see Rom. 8:29 for example) I have been open and honest with you concerning my beliefs which are based on Scripture, yet you refuse to answer my question as to whether or not you believe God fore-ordained the sinful actions of men. I have not even concluded that I am positively right on the subject, nevertheless, that is my understanding based upon my understanding of Scripture. So now it's your turn to answer a question Did God fore-ordain the sinful actions of men or not? Blessings friend New Creature |
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2 | Is God subject to change? | Bible general Archive 2 | John Reformed | 102563 | ||
Dear NC, Did God fore-ordain the sinful actions of men? Based upon God's Holy Word, yes I do believe God fore-ordains EVERYTHING. It is His creation and does with it whatsoever pleases Him. I'm sorry, but, your read on Acts 4 is not reasonable. You wrote "I believe that the determination of God to do something, even the predesting of things is based on His foreknowledge. By that I mean I believe foreknowledge precedes any predesting.(see Rom. 8:29 for example)" That would mean that God knew what He was going to do, so, He pre-ordained that He would do it. Which means His knowing was pre-ordained....and around and around and around! God knew that Jesus would be crucified because He fore ordained that Jesus would be crucified. You can't have God looking into the future and discovering what would happen and then say He made it happen before He looked into the future. It just does'nt make sense that way. Whats wrong with simply accepting what the verse says, which is that the wicked actions ot those responsible for the crucifixion carried out God's plan even though they thought they were doing it for their own evil reasons. Same with Josephs brothers and the Assyrians. John |
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3 | Is God subject to change? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 102565 | ||
John You said Did God fore-ordain the sinful actions of men? Based upon God's Holy Word, yes I do believe God fore-ordains EVERYTHING. It is His creation and does with it whatsoever pleases Him. Then John whether you want to admit it or not you attribute the creation of evil and evil itself to God. Shakey ground thy standeth upon. EdB |
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4 | Is God subject to change? | Bible general Archive 2 | John Reformed | 102573 | ||
And your statement is shakey as well Ed.:-) Read Act 4 and then tell me what you think. Did God fore-ordain that which He said He fore-ordaned, or not? John John |
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5 | Is God subject to change? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 102635 | ||
John I think God fore ordained his plan of salvation, but I also think as in the case of Moses and David God stayed his action because of their prayers. Why because that is what the scripture says he did. Once again you focus on what man can not possibly understand and demand your right. How can that be? Do you not see God has not revealed all His mystery to us. I fail to understand how your so dogmatic about something that is clearly not totally explained in the Bible. EdB |
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6 | Is God subject to change? | Bible general Archive 2 | John Reformed | 102661 | ||
EdB, Do you believe that God pre-destined the acts of the wicked men that led to the crucifiction and death of our Lord Jesus Christ, as Peter said in acts 4:27,28? John |
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7 | Is God subject to change? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 102724 | ||
John As I said I believe God ordained the plan, the how that plan came about did so without God orchestrating it. God for me to believe God controls conflicts with everything we see in the Bible. The Bible is either God and man’s interaction with Him or it is play written by God where the characters performed exactly as God authored them. The Bible then becomes something other than it claims to be. It is not the revealing of God and the account of man written by man inspired by the Holy Spirit but rather a script authored by God where man is required to act each scene as God authored it. EdB |
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