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1 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | ngkh | 143291 | ||
Greetings EdB, I am not saying the books are no good. On the contrary, I admitted that I learned quite a bit going thru the books. But then again, if we look at John 6:44-47 44“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God. Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me. 46No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. 47I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life. So if God does not want me, no matter how hard I try, I will not go to Him but because he wants all of us, we will be taught and raised by Him ( perhaps in ways that I do not even comprehend). I believe that I am growing at His leisure. I do not feel the need to this and that to seek His favor. Except for a few things like tithes and services to the church which are either biblically stated or when I sensed that God wants me to MOVE! I move. If I am going to do everything the books tells me and every book that I read, would it no longer be a chore instead. For e.g. Purpose Driven. Were we not set 40 days to do what Pastor Rick wants us to do? There is a timetable. Now if I am a very gungho person, reading Purpose and Experiencing God together. I must do this and that. Where is the enjoyment of being loved. We lose the whole essence of God's Love. Seek 1st the Kingdom of God and things shall be added to you. He did not say when and how but He will. He did not say you must do this and that and then things shall be added you. He will guide me at His own pace. No need to cramp all the things during the tenure of reading a book. All we need is to believe, to understand that we are already loved. After having gone through about 2 thirds of bible ( have yet to complete cover to cover) I already sensed His love. Faith comes by hearing and not works. Roman 10:17 17Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ. Another e.g is prayer. I don't know about US but here, we tend to start the prayer with thanks and then pow! - all our petitions. Its commonly shared that when we ask, ask and ask, He will answer. What if He does not? Then we will say oh, because you did not do enough that's why, your prayers are not answered. Wrong? but that's what is happening here. Yes, I do sacrifice and seek the Kingdom of God but to sacrifice all? How far will you go? Will you like Abraham sacrifice your kids? If we do, we have totally negate what Christ had done i.e. to put himself up as a sacrificial lamb FOR us. Mark 12:28-34 28One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” 29“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] 30Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[f] 31The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[g]There is no commandment greater than these.” 32“Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. 33To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” 34When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions. I do not feel the need to memorize the scriptures. All I need is to know is what it is about . Where it is, I can always find with today's technology. Search engine. All provided by God! God Bless. |
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2 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | EdB | 143304 | ||
ngkh Forgive me but what you wrote seems to be an attempt to justify doing nothing and letting God "make is happen". I know many that have sat their whole life waiting. 2 Timothy 2:15 (NASB) 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth. Your right we don't need this book or any other book to be in right relationship with God. However these books offer testimonies of successful ways others have come to realize a deep relationship with God. They are offered as aids and ways that will benefit us. As for memorizing scripture, I'm not big on it either but I realized early on I must build a foundation to stand on. Philippians 4:8 (NASB) 8 Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things. I can think of nothing better to 'think on', than scripture that meets the above qualifications. As I said I'm sorry you seemed to have missed the intent of the book, but each of us are different and perhaps this just wasn't your cup of tea. EdB |
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3 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | ngkh | 143310 | ||
Hi, I am attending cell group meetings, I listen to my audio bible as much as I can, I listen to past sermons not only from my church but others as well (thanks to the internet) I participate in church ministries when I am called upon. Thus, I am NOT doing nothing and let God make it happen. God have made me work for His purpose as well. Ephisians 2:8-10 I also have a far longer christian friend than me that who have decks of christian books but never got to know God as he should and have since backslided disillusioned and worn out. I agree many have also sat thru waiting but do they really know why God is not moving them. Have they surrendered in faith in the 1st place? What I am trying to share is be careful that you do not try too hard too fast too much. He will show the way in His own ways and timing. I did not diligently follow the exercises of the two books and yet, I don't think I am stagnant in my growth. I am fed and shaped left ,right ,centre - His ways. I am also blessed when He made me quit smoking after 25 years just outside church grounds. His way, His timing. When I meant not memorizing scriptures, I meant not having to quote the book,chapter and verse number. I know some verses but that's not because I have memorized them but rather undestood them. If not, I won't be able to quote verses (using search engine to get the book,chapter and verse number) to support my sharing. I will still read books whenever I can. Just read with pinches of salt. God Bless |
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4 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | DocTrinsograce | 143315 | ||
Praise God, brother! Would you explain what is meant by "cell group?" Is it dangerous to be a Christian in your part of the world? In Him, Doc |
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5 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | ngkh | 143337 | ||
Hi Doc, No it is not dangerous. Although my country is considered an Islamic state, our constitution gave us freedom of religion and our Government is quite liberal. We are so multi cultural, multi race and multi faiths but we do respect each others faiths. We even have public holidays to recognise the different main faiths e.g Muslim, Buddhist, Hindus and Christians and we celebrate together by having open houses (invitations to friends of other faiths). Although we have certain restrictions due to the sensitivity nature but we are very much on a peaceful coexistence. I would say we are quite fortunate in certain sense compared to other Islamic States. In fact my church which just celebrated 10 years started with only 15 and now we have about 1500 in our congregation. As for cell groups, it is a group of members we called cell leaders (trained and appointed by Pastor), who is wiiling to sacrificed their time and open their home for some 10-20 other members for a weekday meeting in the evening. We will have worships, testimony sharing, verse of the week sharing, bible study( for e.g. we did Experiencing God and Purpose Drivem Life), prayers and finally fellowship. All cell meetings are minuted. So my church have many cells. Each cell leader will report to a zone leader who then reports to Pastor. (minutes are taken at every cell meeting) So my Pastor from these minutes knows who we are, how we are doing, problems that we are facing,etc. I was very surprised that in the begining when I just started to attend my church, my Pastor can address me by name when we first talk. He already knew who I am among the 1500 of his sheep. In fact I was first invited to cell before I was born again. With the help and loving and understanding of the other members of the cell (core members), I began my walk with the Lord and I was a difficult customer. God proved that He is in control in my initial skeptism about christianity but that is another story. Anyway, all members and visitors to church are encouraged to attend a cell group meeting. I like it cos, we now have an extended family whom we can share our joy, our problems, our feeding, prayers for fellow cell members, even ministering to each other and assistance when necessary. It all about the love for fellow brothers and sisters that makes us one. Perhaps if you like, you are invited to our website which is undergoing some reconstruction but most of the pages are up. www.sibkl.org.my God Bless, John |
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6 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | DocTrinsograce | 143338 | ||
Thank you for sharing, brother John. May the Lord bless you and your church, to His glory! Your brothers and sisters will be praying for you! In Him, Doc |
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7 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | ngkh | 143344 | ||
Thank you brother for your prayers. May the Lord bless you and the family too. After all we are all walking on the same path. Hope I did not stir up any tsunami here. |
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