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1 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | DocTrinsograce | 142672 | ||
Hi, brother Tim... I'll throw my two cents in, if you don't mind. I've scanned the book at Wal-Mart. I guess I might have had some bias against it right there. Books on theology sold at Wal-Mart are generally the first indication that you aren't looking at something terribly deep. However, as I looked through it, I couldn't help but notice the emphasis on self. In scripture, we see great emphasis on God. Over and over those whose eyes are drawn to God change their behavior as a consequence, without respect for the results. Job and his visitation; Abraham and his calling; Moses and the burning bush; Isaiah with his experience in the temple; Daniel and his visions; Habakkuk and his theophany; the disciples and their calling; the woman at the well; Zacchaeus; Paul; many people through Acts; etc. etc. No one comes to God for what they will get out of it. In fact, if a man's attitude is like that, his search will be in vain. Instead, we fall on our knees before God because He is God, and when we see Him, we see ourselves more clearly. What else is there to do but fall upon our knees, hang our head and cry, "Have mercy, Lord?" Trying to give someone a set of rules in order to find fulfillment just doesn't work. The reason it doesn't work is because you can't harness the flesh as an engine to bring someone to a more spiritual life -- at least, spiritual in the sense that the scripture means it. Note how in Ephesians that Paul brings us face to face with a Holy God. After three chapters where he can barely contain himself through the experience ONLY THEN does he begin to talk about the practical actions that grow OUT of this knowledge of God. He does the same in Romans and other epistles. I used to breeze over the theology stuff so I could get down to brass tacks. I'd say, "Okay... Okay... but what am I supposed to DO." This misses the boat. The focus on me and on my doing just blows it all out of the water. I know there is popular theology out there, but the truth always offends the masses. The very fact that a philosophy or teaching becomes popular means that it has found a way to coexist contentedly with the flesh and falleness of the many who are on the broad way. 2 Timothy 4:3 is the way to sell books and seminars. The stumblingblocks, foolishness, and light of 1 Corinthians 1:23 and John 3:19 will not often be sold in Wal-Mart I'm afraid. I apologize if I've gotten out of context here. I confess to not having read what everyone has posted on Mr. Warren and his writings. In Him, Doc |
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2 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | Hank | 142725 | ||
Doc, there is a theological book being sold at Wal-Mart that is fairly deep. It is called the Bible. .... Doc, while I enjoyed your review of Rick Warren's book, somehow I have the feeling that it would have carried a great deal more weight had you read the book. --Hank | ||||||
3 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | DocTrinsograce | 142729 | ||
Yeah, brother Hank, it sure would! But that was why it was only my 2 cents worth. If I had read the book, it would have been as high as 5 cents. :-) I try to be selective about what I read. Not so much because I deem one thing worth reading over another, but because I'm not a fast reader, and I have so many books I want to read before I go to glory. I think I stood there about 20 minutes with the book, but that was only because my wife was off looking at clothes. :-) Had I not spent that amount of time with it, I wouldn't have commented on it at all. (I haven't read any of the Vineyard Movement stuff, but I still have an opinion. Equally unweighty I'm afraid!) Hank, have you read it? I'm always appreciative of your thoughts. If you haven't read it, and you get a chance to look at it while waiting for your wife in Wal-Mart :-) let me know what you think. In Him, Doc |
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4 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | Hank | 142744 | ||
No, Doc, I haven't read either of Rick Warren's books; however, my wife has read "The Purpose Driven Life." This evening I asked her to rate it for me among the two dozen or so books she's read in the past several months and she put it at No. 2, second only to the Bible, which she also read from Genesis to Maps during the year. By the way, I didn't mean to be abrasive in my previous post to you on the subject, but I've always been more than a little frustrated with book reviewers who write a review of a book without having read the book. Years ago in an English class I ventured to give a book report without having read the book. The teacher, who was not nearly as much a fool as I thought, commended my book report and called me clever to be able to do so well in view of the obvious fact that I had not read the book. Then he announced before the entire class that he was generously awarding me an "F" on my book report! :-) I deserved it. And it taught me a lesson I've never forgotten: Never give an opinion on a writer or his work without making it a point to know whereof one speaks. --Hank | ||||||
5 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | DocTrinsograce | 142768 | ||
I didn't take it abrasively, sir. I didn't mean to pretend to our forum reading audience that I had read it when I had not. I read enough to know that I didn't want to read any more. :-) (My apologies to your wife, she may well be more discerning.) However, I don't have to read, for example, Jean Paul Sarte or even Kenneth Hagen to know what I will find. I read one chapter written by Robert Schuler and had a pretty accurate opinion. I appreciate John Piper, and I can be pretty certain what I will find when I read him (he has even been criticized for being repetitive). I also enjoy Adrian Rogers. I love my Baptist brothers, but, they are not all the same calibre of theologians and teachers. May the Lord grant that that improve over time! In Him, Doc PS I'll try to emphasize that when I'm expressing an opinion that I am expressing an opinion. I really thought I had done that, even admiting to not having read every word of the book. Even then, I tried to only comment on what I actually had read. Have a blessed Lord's day! |
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