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1 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 68542 | ||
Dear Retxar, You asked: " Does any verse in the bible say wine that contains intoxicationg alcohol is good for anything other than medicinal purposes?" The answer is yes: Ps 104:15 And wine which makes man's heart glad, So that he may make his face glisten with oil, And food which sustains man's heart. Evidently Jesus did not condemn wine, for He said: Luke 5:39 "And no one, after drinking old wine wishes for new; for he says, 'The old is good enough." If He had been referring to grape juice He would not have said "And no one, after drinking old wine wishes for new...". Who wants old grape juice? On the other hand win that is old (aged) is generally to be preferred over new (not aged). It is not my desire to promote drinking of alcoholic beveridges among christians. I am simply defending one's God given right to enjoy a glass of beer or wine without being accused of breaking a commandment. But if you can prove (from the Scripture) that even the moderate use of wine is a sin, then I must repent and obey. Rom 14:21 It is good not to eat meat or to drink wine, or to do anything by which your brother stumbles. If I were in your company of a brother and knew that He considered drinking to be sinful, I would refrain from doing so in his presence. I would not want my liberty in Christ to be the reason of his stumbling. But note! Paul does not forbid drinking; he does not say that the drinker might stumble, but that the brother might stumble. If you believe drinking to be a sin and you drink, then you have sinned. You have stumbled. I would not want to be a cause of that. I, on the other hand, am conviced that it is not a sin, therefore my drinking is not a sin. It's up to you to prove that it is a sin. So show me your proof texts and we can discuss them. God Bless, John |
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2 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | jlpangilinan | 68665 | ||
I agree with you that taking some "wine" is good and is not a sin. 1Ti 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. As Paul advise timothy to drink wine, instead of water for his stomach sake is a clear evident that taking some wine is not prohibited in the bible, but drunkeness did. i agree also to Tim Moran that not all alcoholic brevarage is safe, as we have here once in the Philippines, that can blind the drinkers even in a small amount of that said alcoholic brevarage. Taking some wine is good, even my doctor advise me to take some red wine, a one or two shot of brandy everyday, it is good to the heart and helps level the colesterol in the body, (research shows that anyway, although it also show that the reaction of the body to the alcohol is the same for everyone) My motive of taking small amount of wine really is to improve my health, it is the same that I am taking medicine if the doctor prescribe, as taking my exercise regularly as my doctor advise. I dont think it is a sin. God bless, Johnny |
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3 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | One | 68760 | ||
If I could offer a few thoughts 1. I have studied Biblical languages and have never found any difference made in “grape juice” and alcoholic wine. Once some one tried to convince me “new or sweet wine” was non-alcoholic but Acts 2:13 and 15 dashed that. To me the reason why no great distinction was made is cultural. Let us remember there was no good refrigeration or pasteurization back then. So if it was not fermented it would be soon. 2. Second the passage in Timothy has a lot to do with culture as well. Any one who has spent any time in a third world country can tell you, don’t drink the water. The reason is there is microorganisms in the water. The cure is to add some alcohol to kill them. Also let me say I find it interesting to ask why was Timothy not drinking wine when it flowed like water in thoes days? Now as to Christians drinking today I won’t say it is a sin however I do see it as very unwise when 1 in 12 people become alcoholics. Also think of our example; how does taking a drink look to people in and out side of the Church, my guess is generaly not well. In most every denomination there are always a number of people who look down on drinking and would call it sin. While I don’t necessarily agree why fight it. Alot of people make the argument it is health to drink wine, in moderation. While this is true recent studies show Non-alcoholic grape juice has the same affects with out the controversy. In Him one. |
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