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1 | Please read the 8th verse as well. | Bible general Archive 1 | tonygut | 62688 | ||
In 2 Thessalonians whom is the HE that Paul is referring to in 2:7 whom he said that is retaining the antichrist? | ||||||
2 | Please read the 8th verse as well. | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 62689 | ||
It is my firm belief that the one spoken of in II Thess. 2:7 is Michael the angel who is referred to as the protector of God’s children. Daniel 12:1-4 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. [2] And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. [3] And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. [4] But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. The return of the Lord will stop the heinous workings of antichrist against God’s children and those that endure through all of this will be caught up to be with the Lord. 2 Thes. 2:8-9 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: [9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, Christ spoke of this same period of time. Matthew 24:15-22 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) [16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: [17] Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: [18] Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. [19] And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! [20] But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: [21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. [22] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Paul also gives reference of this deceiver. 2 Thes. 2:3-5 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; [4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. [5] Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? There are those that would deceive us by saying that we will never see these things but Paul warns of just the opposite. CDBJ |
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3 | Please read the 8th verse as well. | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62709 | ||
CDBJ. You said, I believe correctly: "It is my firm belief that the one spoken of in II Thess. 2:7 is Michael the angel who is referred to as the protector of God’s children. Daniel 12:1-4 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. [2] And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. [3] And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. [4] But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased." Another passage which confirms this position is Rev 12:7-10 "7: Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8: but they were defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9: And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world -- he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. 10: And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God." Jude 9 also speaks of Michael "9: But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you." There is a traditional prayer to St. Michael drawn from these passages. St Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle; be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits, who wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen. Emmaus |
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4 | Please read the 8th verse as well. | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 62718 | ||
That is interesting but I assume that the St before Michael, in your post, stands for saint. How can an archangel being that as he is an angel also be a saint at the same time since that position is for human believers in Christ that have called on the name of the Lord for salvation? 1 Cor. 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: CDBJ |
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5 | Please read the 8th verse as well. | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62719 | ||
CDBJ, The term saint or St. is loosely applied to the holy angels that appear in scripture to indicate their holiness. Another verson of the same prayer is rendered "Holy Michael, the Archangel..." Emmaus |
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6 | Please read the 8th verse as well. | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 62740 | ||
I don’t recall having read in the Bible of any prayer that was directed to Michael. What would your biblical interpretation of the word saint be? |
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7 | Please read the 8th verse as well. | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62747 | ||
Neither do I. Could I read every prayer you have ever said in the bible? Saint comes from the Latin root sanctus or holy. Those in heaven, man or angel, are holy by definition since nothing and no one who is not holy can enter heaven. Emmaus |
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