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1 | Raven and John Reformed, Baptism? | Bible general Archive 1 | RAVEN | 36969 | ||
Hello Steve, Here again is a prime example of not reading the entire measage of the Gospel. Picking and choosing that which we want to believe and throwing the the rest out. The bible also says this about faithful Abraham: Hebrews 11 (1) 8 By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. 9By faith he dwelt in the land of promise as in a foreign country, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise; 10for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God. It says that by faith Abraham "OBEYED" And on in to the same book it says: Hebrews 11 The Faith of the Patriarchs (1) 17 By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18of whom it was said, "In Isaac your seed shall be called,"[1] 19concluding that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead, from which he also received him in a figurative sense. And this passage says Abraham "OFFERED UP ISAAC" Both passages show a "work of faith" and thats the kind of works we need! Not of somthing we can boast about as in Eph. 2:8. We must obey from the heart! Romans 6 17But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you "obeyed from the heart" that form of doctrine to which you were delivered. Yes Abraham was faithful but not faithful to the point of doing nothing. This next set of scripture says that Abraham was "justified by works". Faith working together with works faith is made perfect. James 2 Faith Without Works Is Dead (1) 14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16and one of you says to them, "Depart in peace, be warmed and filled," but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your[1] works, and I will show you my faith by my[2] works. 19You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe--and tremble! 20But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?[3] 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness."[4] And he was called the friend of God. 24You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. 25Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? 26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. Your friend in Christ, Raven |
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2 | Raven and John Reformed, Baptism? | Bible general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 36978 | ||
Hello Raven You've missed the whole point of what I said. Genesis 15:6 (ESV) And he believed the Lord, and he counted it to him as righteousness. Romans 4:2-3 (ESV) For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness." Please consider the enormity of what has happened here. Upon belief Abraham was righteous and just in God's sight. Yes, that faith was perfected by works, no question. But that's a separate issue. Steve |
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