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1 | Raven and John Reformed, Baptism? | Bible general Archive 1 | Cyclist | 36688 | ||
Dear Tim Moran, Does the following passage relate to our discussion? Is baptism showing our faith by works? James 2:18 But someone may well say, "You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works." 2 James 2:20 But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless? 3 James 2:26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead. Always in Christ, Cyclist |
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2 | Raven and John Reformed, Baptism? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 36830 | ||
Greetings Cyclist! Thanks for the response and the positive attitude! :-) Yes, I think baptism is an example of showing our faith by our works. However, this isn't really what those who believe in the necessity of baptism are saying. There are two ways of expressing the relationship between baptism and salvation. 1) Faith leads to salvation which produces works. This what Eph. 2:8-10 says. This is how I view baptism. Faith alone leads to salvation. Then, once we are saved, we will begin to do the works to which God has called us - including baptism. Notice the distinction here though. It is salvation which produces the works, not the works which produce salvation. 2) Faith plus baptism leads to salvation. This is what I understand those who believe in baptismal regeneration to be saying. If you aren't baptized, then you aren't saved. Here, works is part of what leads to salvation. This is clearly taught against in Scripture. So, yes, I would include baptism in the works of faith mentioned by James. I would also include many other things. However, these works spring from the completed work of salvation, they do not lead to salvation. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Raven and John Reformed, Baptism? | Bible general Archive 1 | Cyclist | 36835 | ||
Dear brother in Christ, Tim Moran, Thank you for taking time and giving attention to this subjest of baptism. I was baptized after being saved (having the born again experience). Those whom the Lord used to lead me to him stressed to me the importance of repentance, excepting Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, and transformation by the renewing of my mind. It wasn't until about 1 year after salvation that I was baptized. I attended a small church at that time and was baptized in a lake. It was a wonderful experience! Even though we may view this as a work, I enjoyed it as an unexplainable experience. I was filled with the joy of the Lord! I think that I had a wonderful baptismal experience and would recomend to every one that they view baptism as bonding with Christ. A "work" that is rewarding! This is my final post on this subject. Thanks to all of you who helped me to learn more about baptism; RAVEN, John Reformed, Hank, tuli, Emmaus, wordoer, Reformer Joe, Eagleone, and childoftheking. You have helped me grow! God Bless each one of you! Your brother always in Christ Jesus, Cyclist |
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