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1 | Church is kidnapped to Sodom! | James 2:8 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58340 | ||
The devil is going to go after those who are doing God's work. That's a fact. When we are choosing leaders, I would say yes, to Timothy and Titus verses. But where does it say NEVER again if you fall??? I have been taught since being saved to never say 'never and God' in the same sentence. I have been taught that if I repent my sins and am forgiven. I am a new creature. God literally forgets my sins once I have repented and He has forgiven. If I am reading you correctly, you are saying forgiving him doesn't mean restoring him. Forgive him, but strip him of the fruits of being forgiven. If his repentence is sincere, and their forgiveness is sincere, where is your scriptural basis for this punishment after repentance and forgiveness? Especially since such a punishment would rob him of his livelihood, his home, his wife's livelihood, and his children's home? What message would such a course teach his children and those seminary students about repentence and forgiveness? The Bible doesn't say forgive and punish, and just because he wasn't a leader doesn't mean we should start ad-libbing. If it's not in the Word, don't do it. Wouldn't the devil love it if this man of God was restored, yet barred from continuing to teach the Good News because we put conditions on the forgiveness!!! |
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2 | Church is kidnapped to Sodom! | James 2:8 | John Reformed | 58566 | ||
Dear JF You are missing the point. It is not a question of forgiveness but of leadership. Luke 12:48... "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more". No one is saying that a fallen leader who repents should be cast out of the church. But it does seem appropriate and scriptural to remove him from his leadership position. Does that mean he can never hold a leadership role again? That would be up to the church he belongs to. The hardship his family may experience is regretable and perhaps they may need assistance from the deacon's fund etc., but that is a direct consequence of the man's sin. They will also have other difficulties but our sin does have consequences. Nevertheless, if he is a true child of God even these trials and tribulations God will use to sanctify the brother (Romans 8:28). John |
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3 | Church is kidnapped to Sodom! | James 2:8 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58628 | ||
Alright. I can go with you there. Just tossing him to the wolves is what was upsetting me. Melanie |
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4 | Church is kidnapped to Sodom! | James 2:8 | John Reformed | 58681 | ||
Dear Melanie, God forbid we toss a child of God to the wolves! The purpose of church discipline is to restore the fallen one to the fellowship of the saints. John |
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