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1 | Is Salvation lump sum? | Heb 7:25 | lightedsteps | 220062 | ||
Hi Doc A little deeper clarification if you don't mind. you said in regard to Christian ( orthodoxy ) "In theology, when we use the word, we mean the essential doctrines of the Christian faith. 1) Does this refer to the most basic doctrines that all denominations can agree on or are they the doctrines of only certain denominations? What I am seeking for is the understanding of who is being specifically spoken of. 2) When you say ( orthodoxy ) would this be the same as I would say Christendom meaning all Christians regardless of denomination? Where I would be speaking about or on behalf of the Christian Faith in the general sense. 3) In your using the word ( orthodoxy ) does it encompass the Pentecostals and Catholics within this term because of the differences found in their doctrinal beliefs? you say ( heterodoxy ) "We use the word to mean those teachings that are contrary to orthodoxy." 4) Is it as simple as a different or other opinion or thinking? Or does it lean more in the direction of heresy idolatrous schismatic unorthodox something more on the order of contrary to and opposite in nature or character to the held theology? The reason I ask is that neither the term ( Christian orthodoxy ) nor the word ( heterodoxy ) have a very benign sound to them. Forgive me for saying it this way but they convey the feeling of being very staid and absolutely without any room for question. In Jesus lightedsteps |
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2 | Is Salvation lump sum? | Heb 7:25 | DocTrinsograce | 220098 | ||
Continued from part 1 (post #220094). 3) I have found many Pentecostals to hold orthodox beliefs. However, they generally suffer the malady of many modern evangelicals by lacking a definitive confession. Consequently, it is difficult to apply a blanket statement to them. However, the Oneness Pentecostalism holds the heretical teaching known in church history as Modalistic Monarchianism. Although individual Roman Catholics may hold to orthodoxy, the Church of Rome anathematized the Biblical Gospel in 1546 in the Council of Trent. 4) I believe that Pastor Beja responded to this question very well in post #220066. Concerning your final statement concerning the sound of these words, I assume you mean their connotations. I suppose that orthodoxy and orthopraxy have positive connotations, and heterodoxy and heteropraxy have negative connotations. As you come to understand the actual meaning of these words, and their great importance to our faith, no doubt your feelings will shift. After all, of what value are feelings if they are based on something other than the facts? Each of us has a right to interpret Scripture, indeed, a very essential right. However, no one has the right to misinterpret Scripture. On these principles rest enormous, far reaching consequences. As the old divines used to say, "ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda" or "the church reformed and always reforming." In other words, we must be continually studying the Word and examining all things in that light. It is by this very approach (someday I'll explain the five solas to you) that the essential doctrines are promoted and taught, and how the same old heresies are defeated as they rise up over and over again through the years. "Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason -- I do not accept the authority of the Popes and councils, for they have contradicted each other -- my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not recant anything for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. God help me. Amen." --Martin Luther In Him, Doc PS Watch that "feelings" stuff. It generally gets in the way of sound reason. |
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3 | Is Salvation lump sum? | Heb 7:25 | lightedsteps | 220114 | ||
Hi Doc Thank you for the time you have invested on my questions. They have been most enlightening. Does not orthodoxy along with it's doctrines compel the believer toward an exclusive understanding of the Holy Scripture which would conform to those doctrines? Would not then any exegesis of the Holy Scriptures conducted be biased by the very nature of the understanding acquired which would coincide with the dictated doctrines found in orthodoxy? My point being there are many denominations to be found within the term Christian orthodoxy. There are also many divisions found within those several denominations. Thus my use of the term Christendom. While these differing factions within a denomination may agree on the most basic of doctrines thereby keeping them all within the bounds of orthodoxy they hold other doctrines that are not mutual in fact may be exclusive only to themselves. Are they not then incapable of retrieving from scripture a like understanding? Except where orthodoxy itself is concerned. Thanks Again lightedsteps |
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4 | Is Salvation lump sum? | Heb 7:25 | DocTrinsograce | 220116 | ||
Dear lightedsteps, It is impossible to approach any exegesis without a hermeneutic. Orthodoxy has been derived from the ultimate authority of the Word itself. The like understanding of which you speak is itself orthodoxy. In our various congregations we may differ on many points. Not all of those differences warrant separation from fellowship. In Him, Doc PS May I ask a question? Are you a member of the Church of Christ, or have had affiliation with them? |
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5 | Is Salvation lump sum? | Heb 7:25 | lightedsteps | 220120 | ||
Hi Doc No affiliation with Church of Christ (Past Present or Future). It really intrigues me though as to why you would ask this question? lightedsteps |
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6 | Is Salvation lump sum? | Heb 7:25 | DocTrinsograce | 220121 | ||
Dear lightedsteps, We recently had some Campbellites participate in the forum -- haven't heard from them for a while. Your questions and writing style was reminiscent of a couple of them. That prompted the question. Might I ask, what kind of congregation do you attend? In Him, Doc |
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7 | Is Salvation lump sum? | Heb 7:25 | lightedsteps | 220122 | ||
Hi Doc I have felt most comfortable in the Non Denominational realm for some time. Although this too has become a denomination unto itself. The particular congregation would best be described as being gift oriented. As far as my questions they were nothing more than that my questions. I don't have an agenda or any ulterior motives. Being a born again Christian I'm trying my best to have the closest relationship with God possible. Whenever I have a question about something I ASK. As far as my writing style it's all my own I just want to make sure I am fully understood. Being a two finger typist I have a lot of time to think about the words I use to express myself. Proofreading is the final step where I attempt to refine and hone what I am trying to convey for the greatest understanding possible with the least chance for ambiguity using my limited means. This tool we call the computer is nothing more than a tool. The term use to be garbage in garbage out that term still rings true. This tool is inadequate in conveying to others what we are saying or what we mean without the other abilities we have like facial expressions or tone of voice. We have to rely on the language we all speak but we should not be limited in the expression of that language by a limited vocabulary. lightedsteps |
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8 | Is Salvation lump sum? | Heb 7:25 | DocTrinsograce | 220123 | ||
Dear Ligtedsteps, I found fault in none of the things you mentioned. Denominationalism is simply a method by which Christians have attempted to responsibly manage the faith and practice of their congregations. The Lord gave us a certain latitude in many areas. Consequently, people have established a variety of approaches. Some approaches work better than others. Of course, some approaches are more Scripturally sound than others, too. I hope that where ever you have found to practice corporate worship, you are consistent in regular attendance, and have submitted to their authority. Christianity knows nothing of Lone Rangers. :-) In Him, Doc |
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