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1 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | miller521 | 193881 | ||
Doc, what I am simply saying, is that God might use the challenge to help us grow, but John 10:10 says that the Thief came to kill steal and destroy, (talking of Satan) so unless Satan at times does God's work, then how do we call God a destroyer? Also, I have never met anyone who truely believes God does things such as gives cancer to teach a lesson, I've yet to ever meet anyone who says they believe that, and live it. Here is the proof. If you are to believe God sends cancer to teach a lesson, then who are you to ever go to a doctor, take any medicine, or allow doctors to help someone get 'cured' from something God says they should have. If you ever believe God at times sends sickness and harsh times on people, then you should be an outright advocate of shutting down hospitals, making sure nobody can get loans to keep their business afloat etc etc. But like I said, I've never seen anyone live what they preach when they claim God is responsible for hardships in their life. They all support doctors, even though by their theological idea, those doctors might be in direct opposition to God by curing someone that God wants sick. I'd never want to work against God, would you? |
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2 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 193927 | ||
Dear miller521, Interesting perspective you have there concerning Doctors and hospitals and the hardships we must sometime endure. But consider this for a moment: Do you know what the leading cause of death is in the United States? According to the CDC, it is heart disease. Do you happen to know what some of the major contributors are to this illness? Well again, according to the CDC high cholesterol, high blood pressure, obesity, diabetes, tobacco, and secondhand smoke to name a few. Seems like we pretty much bring much this upon ourselves. God just simply lets it happen if He so chooses. Another thing, do you happen to know what a couple steps are to help eliminate or prevent this killer? Well the experts at the CDC claim that physical activity and healthy eating are a huge assent in prevention. But we like our lazy, slothful days and gluttonous eating habits don’t we. Thank God for the educated doctors and the desire of some to staff hospitals to help care for us, because we sure show how much we don’t care about our own selves. Consider one other thing if you would? Earlier this year, my father was diagnosed with lung cancer that quickly spread to his liver, shoulder and now spinal fluid. Upon that diagnosis, I saw him immediately turn to the Lord in prayer and fear and he has since received immeasurable comfort as well as strength to fight it. Odd thing is, he never approached God that much in the past. Due to my father’s illness, I personally have witnessed many who have turn to God in prayer who in years past have tried their best to ignore Him. I’ve seen now two people, family members, turn to God and give up their habit of smoking. Now you tell me, if this isn’t God working on the hearts and minds of these people, and myself, then who do you suppose it is? Who should get the glory for turning these folks to the only one who could save them? As the accuser asked, “Doth Job fear God for nought?” Job 1:9 “He purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.” John 15:2 As Charles Spurgeon once wrote, “if you are a child of God, you will be no stranger to the rod.” Stand in His grace, WOS |
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3 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | miller521 | 193975 | ||
God can get the glory for sickness and death, indeed when Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, God was glorified, he wasn't glorified in the death, but in the resurrection. Sometimes, more often then should be actually, people do not turn to God untill something tragic in their life happens. There is still no way to say that God wasn't there all along wanting to make sure that tragedy never struck them. Do you think God created Adam in the garden with the intent on killing him with cancer? And remember, just because someone dies of a sickness, doesn't mean it wasn't God's will to see them fully healed. If we use that arguement, then wouldn't we have to say that because someone died unsaved and went to hell, that it wasn't God's will to see them saved. Lets stop blaming God for the problems in this world, and put the blame where it goes, on the devil and us. God is soverign, he has already given us his Word, lets just read it, believe it, and live by it. Why does he have to do more than give us his Word to teach us, is the Word not good enough? |
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4 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 194004 | ||
I'm not sure why you responded they way you did. My post clearly puts the blame on us as we are all guilty and it indicated all Glory should go to God. I think the differences between me and you are that I recognize God's sovereignty as unmatched and complete. While you seem to think we can act outside His will and desire in a manner that would assume His authority and control. Sorry brother, but sadly, you and many others are mistaken. Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose. And you are wrong on another point, if God does not want tragedy to strike, do you actually believe it will. That doesn’t sound to me that you take God’s sovereignty at His word. 1 Chronicles 29:11 Thine, O LORD, [is] the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all [that is] in the heaven and in the earth [is thine]; thine [is] the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all. Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure. You should read closely Hebrews 11 and pay particular attention to 35 – 40 and then again before you comment further. “which shall we most admire, the wickedness of human nature, that is capable of perpetrating such cruelties on fellow creatures, or the excellency of divine grace, that is able to bear up the faithful under such cruelties, and to carry them safely through all?” Matthew Henry God allows the suffering my friend, but that doesn’t mean He will not carry us through it and snatch a few more on the way. Nothing happens outside of God’s will, absolutely nothing. And try as you may, you will never prove otherwise. And I’m surely comforted by that fact, that a loving, gracious, saving God is in full control of the universe He created. You asked whether or not God’s word is good enough. Apparently you need to take your own advice brother. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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5 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | miller521 | 194020 | ||
I also recognize his sovernighty, but being soverign does not mean you have to be killing, stealing and destroying, in other words, to be soverign does not mean you have to be a thief. Romans 8:28 is a great example of what I am saying. Everything can work towards our good, no matter what it is. Even a family member dying unsaved and going to hell, thats part of all things isn't it? Do you think that means God made sure that person went to hell in order for it to work for your good... or is it possible they are to blame for not accepting Jesus Christ and ending up in that horrible place? I chose to believe the Bible when it says He is willing that none should perish, but that all should come to repentence. Phil 2:13 is also another great scripture, he works in us both to will and do his good pleasure, can you give me a scripture where God's pleasure is to see his children in pain? I am not saying that suffering doesn't come, I am simply saying that God does not use it in order to correct us, or as so many try to say, teach us a lesson. I am simply saying that when it does come, God can use it to strengthen and prove us, and make us stronger. But ultimately, he wants to work in us to see that those challenges are removed. And finally I am saying that his Word is perfect. It will work for any and all occasions. Its why Christians should be the marriage counselors, its why Christians should be the doctors, we should be the ones working at the city missions, because the Word is a road map that can handle every situation that arises in our lives. Its sufficient, there is no need for any other instruction, the Word and the Holy Ghost will lead us into all truth. |
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