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1 | what does ephesians 4:9 mean-"descended" | Eph 4:9 | PDAL | 184079 | ||
Greetings CDBJ!....I would be happy to clear up some things.Alot gets lost in our meanings over our P.C.,To me last and second mean the same.Sorry!--It is better said last Adam.1Cor.15:47 GOD created only two corperate men in the earth.The first man was of the earth,made of dust;the second man is the Lord from heaven.NKJV.1Cor.15:45-54 is some very good reading.Once we ask Jesus into our heart by choice of course(not automatic)there is a change that takes place in our spirit.In Adam our condition was spiritual death.By asking Jesus into our heart that condition changes from death to eternal life(denotes quality as to duration).It's His life in us.1John5:11,12 And this is the testimony:that GOD has given us eternal life,and this life is in His Son.12 He who has the Son has life;he who does not have theSon of God does not have life.Because of this we have become NEW CREATIONS IN CHRIST!AMEN!I'm not a sinner saved by grace,I'm a NEW CREATION IN CHRIST!....I hope it's becoming clearer.As you seek HIM it will.....PDAL | ||||||
2 | no physical death? not sinners? | Eph 4:9 | stjohn | 184107 | ||
Hi PADL; You have made some good points. But, I'm kinda like CDBJ, so can you please clear some things up for me, and may I ask. Wasn't there physical death as well; And not just a spiritual death? Wasn't Adam created to live (physically), forever? And I must say, when I hear a brother say; and I'm quoting you: ..."I'm not a sinner saved by grace,I'm a NEW CREATION IN CHRIST!..." Well, it really worries me. Now I know it might sound like Paul is contradicting himself but I think we need to be careful not to lose sight in that although we are, "NEW CREATIONS IN CHRIST!AMEN!" We still have that old man or sin nature, that we need to fight, for Paul says in Romans 7:15, .."For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate." and, in Rom 7:24 he says; ..."Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? It sure looks like he has lost the battle... But then v,25 says; ..."Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin." Well; it looks to me like maybe I am a sinner saved by faith, and, a new creation in Christ! Looks to me like I'm both! What do you think? Now the reason I say that it worries me when I hear a brother say, "I'm not a sinner saved by grace,I'm a NEW CREATION IN CHRIST!" Well, for me at least I cant honestly say, ...I'm not a sinner... without getting all puffed up and proud. so all I'm saying is I think maybe we need to be careful. If we lose sight of the first we can get puffed up in the last. And after all... I think God said He hates pride. your thoughts? God's peace. stj |
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3 | no physical death? not sinners? | Eph 4:9 | DocTrinsograce | 184144 | ||
Hi, stj... When you address a person directly after their post, it isn't necessary to mark it as a question. They will be notified of the post and will respond if they choose to do so. However, when you mark it as a question, it shows up on the "front page" as though it is a question to the forum as a whole. Consequently, we try to mark things as questions only when they are of that nature. This convention works very well, allowing new forum users to be "heard" in the midst of the hubub of general discussion. :-) Thank you! In Him, Doc |
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4 | no physical death? not sinners? | Eph 4:9 | stjohn | 184145 | ||
Thanks Doc; Sorry about that. I'll be careful to do so in the future. God's peace stj |
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5 | no physical death? not sinners? | Eph 4:9 | DocTrinsograce | 184165 | ||
Thank you, stj... But then, of course, there's the problem of people answering the wrong post. :-) Like PDAL did when he responded to me in post #184158 when he meant to respond to you. :-) |
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