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NASB | Ephesians 4:9 (Now this expression, "He ascended," what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth? |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 4:9 (Now this expression, "He ascended," what does it mean except that He also had previously descended [from the heights of heaven] into the lower parts of the earth? |
Subject: what does ephesians 4:9 mean-"descended" |
Bible Note: Greetings Skccab and welcome to the forum. Thanks for answering my post but that’s really pushing this old boy to the limit trying to hold a thought for over a month; check on the far right side of post 2/20/07. The computer I have between my ears has a hard time if it gets over a week old; just kidding. If my memory serves me right, I think I was pulling someone’s chain about the statement they made about, “asking Jesus in there heart”, it’s NOT Scriptural!!! That’s like inviting the Lord God into a sewer or a garbage dump; “bad news”. Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? In all actuality, a person could go through all the mechanics of asking Jesus into their heart and still “possibly” not be saved; the reason being is because they are doing something to receive Christ apart from faith in Him. Ephes. 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. You probably already know this, but God’s word tells us to “Believe” on the Lord Jesus Christ, and God will have mercy and graciously save us because we have confidence and relying on the person and work of Jesus, God’s precious Son. John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: The Koine Greek of the following verse actually conveys the action of receiving Christ as being “automatic” when one believes in Jesus. One can’t possibly receive Him without believing and many get this twisted around. I use to teach that believing and receiving were synonymous in John 1:12 but they aren’t. Believing in Jesus as God’s Son, the appointed one of God automatically let one become a child of God and receiving Him is a function of God not of man. The closest thing to receiving might be construed as positive volition toward the written Word of God Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. I’ve probably really messed your head up by now; sorry if that’s the case. I sure hope you enjoy the forum though, CDBJ |