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1 | Dr. B. What does aggelos mean? | Eph 4:9 | drbloor | 171644 | ||
Dear Searcher, I can only assume you have not read a word I have written. I have not changed any words - I directed you to the original Greek word "Tartarus" to explain what was being referred to by "hell". I directed you to the examples in the Psalms to explain what the "chains of darkness" are. And I proved from Peter that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah are "reserved for judgment" in precisely the same way as these aggelos are. The similarity in their state is obvious because they are all dead humans. Please do not accuse me of changing words when I have not done that. In answer to what happened to the others, have you read 2 Peter 2 or Genesis 6? The aggelos of Peter were not spared and neither was "the old world". Everyone died apart from Noah and his family. Jude 1:6 and 7 are direct references to Peters letter, so there is no reason to cover the same issue twice. I don't understand this sentence - "Plus, if those in Genesis 6:2, how did they have relations?" You are very good at asking questions but not very good at answering them. So here's a few to start with (some of which you have already blatantly ignored): Please explain how angels can sin, when Christ told us that they can't. Please explain how the 50 men looking for Elijah thought they'd find him when Elisha had already told them that Elijah was in Heaven and, according to you, they had most probably watched Elijah go there. Please explain why you have invented a belief that they were after Elijahs spirit, when 2 Kings 2 actually tells us that they "afar off" and on the other side of the river Jordan during the conversation about double portions of spirit, and also tells us the exact reason they went to look for Elijah – that they were concerned about Elijahs safety and went to make sure he was okay? They urged Elisha until he was "shamed", not until he got angry with them for wanting Elijahs spirit! It is clear they cared about Elijah. Your claim they wanted double portions of Elijahs spirit is invented un-Biblical nonsense. In your own words, "Where is your Biblical support?" Please prove that the heaven we are referred to in 2 Kings 2 is the Heaven where God abides and not the heaven of the sky. Please prove your convolution that Elijahs letter was a prophecy and not simply a letter written at the time. Please explain why when Jesus said, "No man hath ascended up to heaven," he was actually lying. I look forward to your answers. In future, please read what I have written before you write your answers. It will help prevent you from making false accusations. Yrs, Dr. B. |
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2 | Dr. B. What does aggelos mean? | Eph 4:9 | Searcher56 | 171648 | ||
When I said "you changed the words. Your case has not been proven." ... I continued with 2 Peter 2:4 doesn't say "killed" ... but "cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment". ... Did you ever say "killed" before ... more important does the Bible? |
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3 | Dr. B. What does aggelos mean? | Eph 4:9 | drbloor | 171649 | ||
Searcher, An explanation of a word does not mean that I have changed it. If I read in the newspaper that a man had been eaten by a Hippo, I would be quite correct to say that he had been killed. It does not mean that I have changed any of the words. Yrs, Dr. B. |
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4 | Dr. B. What does aggelos mean? | Eph 4:9 | Searcher56 | 171654 | ||
But, the Bible says they were not killed. I think they are in the same place the rich man is - alive and in torment (Luk 16:22-24). | ||||||
5 | Dr. B. What does aggelos mean? | Eph 4:9 | drbloor | 171658 | ||
Searcher, Please, please, please go back and read what I have written regarding Tartarus and the chains of darkness, otherwise you're just going to keep repeating the same pointless comments over and over again. The Bible says that the aggelos were thrust into the depths - by definition of the ocean - at the time of the flood. And this means that they were killed. Look at the use of Tartarus in the LXX Septuagint for proof of this, or have the courtesy to read my previous post on the subject. You can think what you want, but the Bible disagrees with you. Yrs, Dr. B. |
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6 | Dr. B. What does aggelos mean? | Eph 4:9 | Searcher56 | 171672 | ||
It was BEFORE the flood, as the flood was before Sodom ... the Bible NEVER says the angels' dismise happaned at the same time. | ||||||
7 | Dr. B. What does aggelos mean? | Eph 4:9 | drbloor | 171681 | ||
Dear Searcher, 2 Peter 2 categorically shows that the Aggelos were killed at the time of the Flood. Peter uses in parallel the two examples of the Flood, and Sodom and Gomorrah. 2 Peter 2:4 -5 describe the wicked at the time of the Flood, and the one righteous man to be saved. Likewise 2 Peter 6-7 describes the wicked in Sodom and Gomorrah and the one righteous man to be saved. In doing so, Peter is showing that, "The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished" This is a form of the Jewish literary device known as parallelism. But to be parallel, you have to have a balance, which is removed if you arbitrarily remove Noah from the Aggelos equation. The example of the Aggelos would not fit into this parallel if there were no "godly" men to be delivered out of their temptations. But the godly man used in comparison to the Aggelos is Noah. Thus the Aggelos were indeed killed in the Flood. Unjust reserved unto judgement: Aggelos and Old World. Godly: Noah. Unjust reserved unto judgment: Sodom and Gomorrah. Godly: Lot. For more information, please go back and read my post on Tartarus, which you seem to have missed. Yrs, Dr. B. |
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8 | Dr. B. What does aggelos mean? | Eph 4:9 | Searcher56 | 171684 | ||
NO - then Sodom and Gomorrah happened at the same time as the Flood according to you. I am DONE on this. | ||||||
9 | Dr. B. What does aggelos mean? | Eph 4:9 | drbloor | 171687 | ||
Dear Searcher, That's a weird answer. I never said that. But thanks for your thoughts. Shalom, Dr. B. |
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