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1 | Jesus decended into hell? | Eph 4:9 | Morant61 | 169267 | ||
Greetings Dr. B! There are some serious problems with your identification of the Lazarus in Hades with the Lazarus of Bethany. First of all, they are called two different names. In John, Lazaurus (who was raised from the dead) is mentioned, while in Matthew, Simon the leper is mentioned. What evidence is there that these two men are the same? Secondly, John only says that Lazarus was at the dinner, while Matthew specifically says that the dinner was held at the house of Simon the leper. Thirdly, the 'so called parable' says that Simon was a beggar, but according to Matthew, the Simon mentioned owns a house. The word beggar refers to someone who could not own a house. As for your identification of Caiphas as the rich man, this is a major stretch. The text says that he had five brothers, not brother's in law. Here is what A. T. Robertson says about Mt. 26:6 ********** Mat 26:6 - In the house of Simon the leper . Evidently a man who had been healed of his leprosy by Jesus who gave the feast in honour of Jesus. All sorts of fantastic theories have arisen about it. Some even identify this Simon with the one in Luk_7:36., but Simon was a very common name and the details are very different. Some hold that it was Martha’s house because she served (Joh_12:2) and that Simon was either the father or husband of Martha, but Martha loved to serve and that proves nothing. Some identify Mary of Bethany with the sinful woman in Luke 7 and even with Mary Magdalene, both gratuitous and groundless propositions. For the proof that Mary of Bethany, Mary Magdalene, and the sinful woman of Luke 7 are all distinct see my Some Minor Characters in the New Testament. John (Joh_12:1) apparently locates the feast six days before the passover, while Mark (Mar_14:3) and Matthew (Mat_26:6) seem to place it on the Tuesday evening (Jewish Wednesday) just two days before the passover meal. It is possible that John anticipates the date and notes the feast at Bethany at this time because he does not refer to Bethany again. If not, the order of Mark must be followed. According to the order of Mark and Matthew, this feast took place at the very time that the Sanhedrin was plotting about the death of Jesus (Mar_14:1.). ********** So, in light of the shaky 'facts' you have cited, I would have to say that the account is not a parable since Scripture does not call it a parable. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Jesus decended into hell? | Eph 4:9 | DocTrinsograce | 169272 | ||
Dear Brother Tim, I agree with what you have said regarding the identity of Lazarus in Luke 16. However, in my own thinking I would qualify your last statement: "I would have to say that the account is not a parable since Scripture does not call it a parable." The teachings just prior to Lazarus and Dives are the Unjust Steward and the Prodigal Son. Although Scripture does not explicitly state they are parables, they appear to qualify in every other respect. What do you think? In Him, Doc |
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3 | Jesus decended into hell? | Eph 4:9 | Morant61 | 169276 | ||
Greetings Doc! I would respectfully disagree! The fact that parables are used earlier in the chapter doesn't automatically make everything else a parable. :-) Would you say that Luke 16:16-18 is a parable? Either way, the burden of proof is on those who claim it is a parable, since Scripture does not call it a parable. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Jesus decended into hell? | Eph 4:9 | DocTrinsograce | 169285 | ||
Dear Brother Tim, That isn't what I saying. Even so, I agree with your assessment of what you THOUGHT I was saying. :-) I further agree that the teaching of Lazarus and Dives is not parabolic -- assuming our definition of a parable is correct -- as you have quite clearly shown. What I meant to say was this: It appears that some parables in Scripture are not explicitly stated as being parabolic. I cited two examples just prior to Lazarus and Dives. This was the notion on which I asked your opinion. :-) In Him, Doc |
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5 | Jesus decended into hell? | Eph 4:9 | Morant61 | 169294 | ||
Greetings Doc! Sorry about that my friend! :-) I misunderstood you! I would agree that there appear to be four parables in a row from Luke 15:3 to Luke 16:13, but the word 'parable' is only used in Luke 15:3. As I look at the Greek text, one could make an arguement that the word parable could cover the entire section since there is no break in the thought until Luke 16:14. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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