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1 | Valid 'gifts?' | Eph 4:11 | charis | 1543 | ||
Are these 'gifts' valid ministries valid in the church today? If not, specify what invalidates them (it)? Please try to use scripture, not tradition. | ||||||
2 | Valid 'gifts?' | Eph 4:11 | RCSCROLL | 2058 | ||
With the closing of the canon of scripture we would allways need pastors teachers and evangelists,in order to continue . love RC Scroll there are no other epistles to be written nor new prophesy or revalation from God rather than that which we have. Other wise how would we test in scripture. the just shall live by faith. | ||||||
3 | Double standard? | Eph 4:11 | charis | 2062 | ||
Dear RCScroll, With all due respect, wouldn't this be a 'double standard' of Bible interpretation? What would keep us from 'picking choosing' gifts of the Spirit, or even books of the Bible, as some do? Please look over my thoughts outlined in Apologetics, Parts 1 and 2 (again, my humble apologies to you about my mix-up), and explain scripturally why post ascension apostles and prophets are mentioned, but now invalid. 'The closing of the canon of scripture' should have no more difference to the continuance of one ministry over another. My friend, this is not a 'shooting match' against you, I pursue Jesus. I have seen balanced ministries that continue in the work of the apostles and prophets in the same manner as pastors, evangelists, and teachers. I have also seen much abuse, and I am a victim of such abuse. Being burnt gives me care in application, but doesn't make me forsake fire. Many blessings to you in Christ Jesus, charis |
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4 | Double standard? | Eph 4:11 | RCSCROLL | 2702 | ||
charis how are you doing,been thinking about you ,can I ask if you have apostles at your church,atleast those who would call themselves apostle or prophet,this is what im gettig too many people call themselves apostles these days,and I would love less the people who hurt my friends this way. love in ChristRCScroll | ||||||
5 | Double standard? | Eph 4:11 | charis | 2826 | ||
Dear RCScroll, I am fine, kind sir! Sorry I didn't get back to you, I have been very busy this last week. Your question is fair and poignant. Yes, there is one person in my church answering the description of apostle, and a few saints that fulfil the ministry of prophecy. None 'call themselves' Apostle or Prophet, and they are not considered 'above' anyone else in the congregation. It is simply what they do, and they do it as unto the Lord, serving His people. I agree that many call themselves apostles because they travel a lot, preaching here and there, and maybe write books about how to 'feel good' in Jesus. I do not believe this emulates Paul or Barnabas. (as they claim) I also agree that many long-winded, loud-mouthed preachers spouting unrelated, confusing scripture references, saying, "Thus saith the Lord..." and 'seeing' outrageous, disjointed and mutually exclusive visions are not prophets. I am truly sorry for your friends. There must be accountability for those who serve the Lord in His gifts. I have also been hurt by a man with a wonderful apostolic ministry that was ruined when he started calling himself an Apostle. It's not the name or the title, it's the service to the saints of God. If you want to know more contact me by Hotmail, and I will show you what I mean. By the way, I do not think that missionary equals present-day apostles. I know too many missionaries! Some may fulfil the description, but not very many. At least not the modern (per)version of missionary work. Blessings and love in Christ Jesus, charis |
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