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NASB | Ephesians 4:11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 4:11 And [His gifts to the church were varied and] He Himself appointed some as apostles [special messengers, representatives], some as prophets [who speak a new message from God to the people], some as evangelists [who spread the good news of salvation], and some as pastors and teachers [to shepherd and guide and instruct], |
Bible Question (short): 3 gifts, or less? |
Question (full): Dear RCSCROLL, I am afraid that I don't understand your point. I am not thinking of superceding the Apostles to the Lamb, but continuing their ministry. In any case you have not explained to me when these gifts were rescinded. I have used scripture to prove that there were more than 12 apostles, and that Paul clearly spoke of the gifts in the present-tense. Even the original 12 disciples did not heal 'all' on a 24-7 basis, only according to the faith of the recipient. Prophets proclaim the word of God, bu they are not soothsayers, per se. Sometimes the future is spoken, but not always. Jeremiah 23 speaks of false prophets. They have been around since way back, and will continue to be around until the return of the Lord Jesus. Since the above scripture describes 5 gifts, and you have tried to do away with 2 of them, are the others invalid, too? With respect in Christ Jesus. |