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NASB | Ephesians 4:11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 4:11 And [His gifts to the church were varied and] He Himself appointed some as apostles [special messengers, representatives], some as prophets [who speak a new message from God to the people], some as evangelists [who spread the good news of salvation], and some as pastors and teachers [to shepherd and guide and instruct], |
Bible Question: Point well made. I believe that the ministerial gifts spoken of in Ephesians 4 are valid today, though often misunderstood, misused or abused. It has been put to me that they are no longer valid or needed in this day. If you believe they have been done away with, please tell me when and by what authority. Scripture, please. |
Bible Answer: remeber you the words that were spoken before of the Apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ.Jude 1:17 past tense.Peter said that you may _(remember) what was said before of the prophets,and of the commandments of us the Apostles .past tense and we can remember thank God we have the word.Why would we have to remember if we still had them to warn us in person. The office of an apostle maybe could be described as a church planter today but they would not be doing miricles, for I have yet to see a blind man healed instantly or a dead man raised from dead,you only here you dont see . If an Apostle was walking the face of this earth he would only have to remain in one place all manner of sickness and deformaties would be healed.And we could have a news crew there 24-7 for all would be healed. Prophets told of the messiah coming,the office of a prophet to day tells of what he did and can do for them. one foretells of future events concerning Christ, and the one for today gos forthtelling of the events that took place. jeremiah 23 discribes what people who say they speak for God are verse20 and on. Love RCSCROLL |