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NASB | Ephesians 4:11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 4:11 And [His gifts to the church were varied and] He Himself appointed some as apostles [special messengers, representatives], some as prophets [who speak a new message from God to the people], some as evangelists [who spread the good news of salvation], and some as pastors and teachers [to shepherd and guide and instruct], |
Bible Question (short): Does Jude 1:17 answer Eph 4:11? |
Question (full): Jude 1:17 proves that the 'pneumatika', spritual gifts, ceased at some point in the past? I hardly think so. Quoting Jude 1:17 to prove this point is really stretching things a bit, don't you think? Why do people quote 1-2 lines of Scripture followed by 20 lines of "reasoning" to make their point? Is there no clear verse of Scripture that answers Charis' question? |