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1 | "Spiritual" Isreal? | Rom 9:10 | Morant61 | 113210 | ||
Greetings Sheckey! It always amazes me when an old post pops up again. I sometimes forget what I have posted! :-) Thanks for taking the time to read it. How do I draw the distinction between 'spiritual' Israel and 'natural' Israel? Let's look at the flow of Paul's arguement in Romans 9. 1) In Rom. 9:6, Paul says that not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Here is the first indication that Paul is thinking of something beyond the physical nation of Israel. 2) In the next 13 verses, Paul shows that someone (Easu) who was a physical son of Israel could be excluded from God's covenant of promise. 3) Then Paul begins to discuss God's sovereign right to show mercy to whom He wishes. 4) In this case, it is those who are not 'His people' who will be called 'His people' - Rom. 9:25. 5) Finally, in chapter 11 and verse 25, Paul details that Gentiles will be included into 'Israel' through faith. This is what I mean by the distinction between physical and spiritual Israel. Physical Israel is all those who are born of Jacob, but they may not be God's people. While, spiritual Israel is made up of all those who have faith. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | "Spiritual" Isreal? | Rom 9:10 | flinkywood | 113232 | ||
Tim, well said. If I may add my 2 shekels: a study note on this topic from the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible. Romans 9.6-13: “Not all…belong to Israel”: The thesis statement of Rom 9-11, that elect Israel, as a remnant chosen by grace, has always been a subset of ethnic Israel (11.6-7). Paul shows that a pattern of divine selection and exclusion was already at work before th founding of Israel as a nation. From Gen 21.12 and 18.10 he shows that God made a distinction between the biological sons of Abraham, choosing Isaac over Ishmael to be a channel of covenant blessings (9.12-13). The point is that natural and biological descent from the patriarchs is not a guarantee of divine blessing, because everything depends on the grace of God’s call (9.11; Luke 3.8; John 8.33-39). Paul is also distinguishing Judah and Israel (Jew and Israel) in Romans 9-11, but argues that all Israel, a righteous remnant of both the Southern and dispersed Northern Kingdoms, will be redeemed through Christ according to God's covenant promise. Colin |
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3 | "Spiritual" Isreal? | Rom 9:10 | Morant61 | 113241 | ||
Greetings Colin! Great addition my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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