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NASB | Romans 9:10 And not only this, but there was Rebekah also, when she had conceived twins by one man, our father Isaac; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 9:10 And not only that, but this too: Rebekah conceived twin sons by one man [under the same circumstances], by our father Isaac; |
Subject: Jacob and Esau |
Bible Note: Nolan: Actually, I hold that Romans 9:15-24 makes an ironclad case for unconditional election (rather than just examining (9:10-15 in isolation), since the "vessels of wrath" and "vessels of mercy" CANNOT be talking about favored and unfavored nations. Paul undeniably states that the vessels of mercy are those from the Jews and the Gentiles who have been prpared for glory. Unless there is a third type of vessel that Paul forgot to mention, those vessels of destruction also must be from the Jews AND the Gentiles (i.e. those who do not fall in the category of 9:24). This is what Tim does not address in his repetition of the "vessels of mercy" interpretation. No offense, but he seems eager to emphasize the "mercy" group and gloss over the "wrath" group almost completely. One has to do some serious mental gymnastics (far more so than occasionally qualifying the word "all" in its biblical context) to come up with a conclusion other than the one Paul is directly stating. --Joe! |