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1 | No Joyce Meyer?????????????????? | Acts 17:11 | kalos | 27339 | ||
Shell: Thanks for your reply and for sharing your experience. I agree with you in that you quickly discerned that this pastor was missing the mark as far as sound Bible doctrine. You are correct. First, it is not true that it's always God's will to heal. If it were His will, then He would always heal, wouldn't He? Second, it is not true that if somebody doesn't get healed, then they didn't have enough faith. If that were true, all I could say is "Poor old Paul (the Apostle). He could have been healed if only he'd had enough faith." Third, not every Spirit-filled believer has the gift of healing. It is the Holy Spirit, not we ourselves, who decides who gets which gift. It is one and the very same [Holy] Spirit who divides [the gifts] to every man severally as *He* will (1 Cor 12:11). kalos |
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2 | No Joyce Meyer?????????????????? | Acts 17:11 | Jesified | 71983 | ||
I'll probably regret saying something because I get jumped on everytime I say ANYTHING about healing or prosperity. People want a simple answer for a complex question and it doesn't work like that. Plus, too many people have been fed misrepresented teaching on healing and prosperity. However, I would that you not be ingorant. Healing is for everyone. Jesus healed everyone that believed and needed healing. He didn't refuse one person. He also did only the will of the Father (John 5:30) which would have had to have included healing seeing that He healed people. Paul wasn't sick his "thorn in the flesh" was a phrase that was common in that culture meaning something more like he had a "pain in the neck" or that something was constantly nagging him. Read on in 2 Corinthians 12, after he says he has a thorn in the flesh he talks about how he is persecuted and in distress for Christ's sake. If you ask me, Paul is talking about the Jews who would move from town to town after him and stir the people up against him. Also, I would suggest reading the book of Acts where it documents Paul's journey and shows that the Jews persecuted him as he once persecuted believers. Finally, you're exactly right, not every Spirit-filled believer has the gifts of healings as stated in 1 Corinthians 12:11. However, the gifts of healings doesn't have to be present for healing. I was recently healed of a nagging pain in my knee and foot while discussing healing scriptures over the phone with my mother. No one laid hands on me and I didn't even realize I was healed until I hung up the phone and went to get something to eat. What kind of God wants His children to suffer? Is God abusive or sadistic? Of course not. Then why should He not want us to be healed? If you would like more information on healing I would suggest checking out Christ the Healer by F.F. Bosworth. I don't know anyone who's read it and not had their questions answered. I know some one who keeps extra copies around because he's giving them away so often. It'll really be a blessing. Jesified |
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3 | No Joyce Meyer?????????????????? | Acts 17:11 | John Reformed | 72042 | ||
Dear Jesified, God the Father poured out His wrath on His own beloved Son. Suffering is not a bad thing! Many a man has sought the Saviour because of the pain he was experiencing. The problem with WOF teaching is that it tells people that trials and tribulations are not of God. Tell that to Job! John |
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4 | No Joyce Meyer?????????????????? | Acts 17:11 | Jesified | 72067 | ||
As the world of science teaches, for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction. Though this is in referance to the natural world, the same holds true for the spiritual realm. For sin there is atonement. For Heaven (an eternity with God) there is Hell (eternity with out God). For faith we have fear. Faith activates God, however fear activates the devil. That is the lesson that everyone misses from Job. Why was Job offering the sacrifices for his children in the beginning? read Job 1:1-5. The answer is found in verse 5 "When a period of feasting had run its course, Job would send and have them purified. Early in the morning he would sacrifice a burnt offering for each of them, thinking, "Perhaps my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts." This was Job's regular custom." -Job 1:5 As you can see Job wasn't sure if his children had sinned, but just in case that maybe they did, he made offerings to God. The other fact that people miss is that God didn't CAUSE Job to suffer, he ALLOWED it. Look at the times where Satan asks God to strike Job (Job 1:11, for one), God doesn't. In effect, He tells Satan, "Why don't you do it?" If we keep reading you'll see that it was during one of his sons' feasts that messengers came telling Job of what was happening to him. Why is this? Because that was when Job was afraid. Fear gives Satan the legal right to carry out the acts which you are afraid of just like faith gives God the right to carry out what we have faith for. Jesified |
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5 | No Joyce Meyer?????????????????? | Acts 17:11 | Reformer Joe | 72071 | ||
You wrote: "As the world of science teaches, for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction. Though this is in referance to the natural world, the same holds true for the spiritual realm. For sin there is atonement. For Heaven (an eternity with God) there is Hell (eternity with out God). For faith we have fear." Not one of these is an example of the scientific principle that you mention. Hell is not a necessary reaction to heaven. Atonement is not a necessary reaction to sin (just ask those in hell whose sins are not atoned for). And fear is not a necessary reaction to faith. You also wrote: "Faith activates God, however fear activates the devil." The creation "activates" the Creator? And all along I though He was in charge! The Bible tells us that you are wrong about us "activating" God: 'Why should the nations say, "Where, now, is their God?" But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases.' --Psalm 115:2-3 Job himself understood this as well, while God is giving him a little four-chapter lesson on Who is in charge (Job 38-41): "Behold, I am insignificant; what can I reply to You? I lay my hand on my mouth."--Job 40:4 Wouldn't it be nice if we often laid our hands on our own mouths? We activate God?!? I fear Him far to much to ever think such an insolent thing. You also wrote: "The other fact that people miss is that God didn't CAUSE Job to suffer, he ALLOWED it." I don't think anyone has said anything to the contrary. "If we keep reading you'll see that it was during one of his sons' feasts that messengers came telling Job of what was happening to him. Why is this? Because that was when Job was afraid." What verse shows us that Job was afraid? Methinks you are making stuff up. "Fear gives Satan the legal right to carry out the acts which you are afraid of just like faith gives God the right to carry out what we have faith for." Please show us the verse which says that fear gives Satan a legal right to do something. And then repent for insisting that human beings EVER have the power to give or withhold rights from the omnipotent, holy, sovereign Creator God of the universe. He is the one who owns everything, and any attempt or declaration to be God's god will be met with nothing but His just wrath. The fact that someone can call oneself a Christian and at the same time claim to have control over God is a clear sign of why reformation is so desperately needed in the 21st-century church. --Joe! |
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6 | No Joyce Meyer?????????????????? | Acts 17:11 | CDBJ | 72074 | ||
Hi Joe, I liked your post but that last part, in my estimation, could use a little emphasis in the right direction. The fact that someone can call oneself a Christian and at the same time claim to have control over God is a clear sign of why reformation is so desperately needed in the 21st-century church. Calling oneself a Christian doesn’t necessarily make it so, and I think what is needed in the 21st. century is the same thing that has been needed in every century, and that is a personal relationship with the person of Jesus Christ, which carries with it an attitude adjustment. Nice post, CDBJ |
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7 | No Joyce Meyer?????????????????? | Acts 17:11 | Reformer Joe | 72076 | ||
"Calling oneself a Christian doesn?t necessarily make it so..." My point exactly. "...and I think what is needed in the 21st. century is the same thing that has been needed in every century, and that is a personal relationship with the person of Jesus Christ, which carries with it an attitude adjustment." That is what it looks like at the individual level, and collectively among God's people that is what we call reformation and revival. It is true that it is needed in every century. Luther said the church should always be "semper reformanda" -- always reforming -- because our tendency is to wander away from the truth. As God's people, we must constantly return to the gospel of of the grace of God, because the "idol factories" we call our hearts are constantly prone to water down, minimize, or distort the truth. And for the church's neglect in doing this, I believe that we are in serious danger of facing God's judgment. Jesus Christ has "removed His lampstand" in the past for far less than some of what I see on the landscape of American Christendom. Very soon, we are going to see one of two things here in the United States: collective repentance or the rod. --Joe! |
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