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1 | Interpret John 8:24 | John 8:24 | Andy S. | 234539 | ||
Hey Tim, Wow, it took a long time but we finally see eye to eye one one thing. I agree, I will never be able to understand our infinite God. I don't know why we would have to meet face to face. I think you can be much clearer through e-mailing because you have a delete button if you want to take anything back that you have written. We have been talking about the truth of the gospel and since the gospel is simple it should be easy to give a clear answer. You said there is not a long checklist of doctrine that one must believe in order to be saved. Your checklist is longer than mine my friend because of how you interpret John 8:24. Wait just a second. I can't believe I have to ask you this again but how do you interpret John 8:24. I said we had to slow down for BradK but now we have to slow down for my sake. I promised BradK you are "well-rounded" but now I'm not so sure. Your going to really have to explain yourself. You said you disagree with my former pastor's understanding of John 8:24. Let me put you in a hypothetical scenario. You are having a Bible Study at a coffee shop with my former Pastor and you guys agree that Jesus is claiming to be Jehovah through these "I am" statements in John chapter 8. And my former pastor says, "People will "die in their sins" if they don't believe Jesus is co-equal, co-eternal and con-substantial (one being) with the person of Jehovah. If Jesus is claiming to be Jehovah then He is obviously claiming to be the "being" of Jehovah". And you respond, "Yes I agree that Jesus is claiming to be Jehovah in these verses but I disagree with you because....". Can you please complete this sentence for me? If you don't mind I'm going to send people over to this thread so we can just use one thread. I want to respond to your other thread but I would like this question answered and I'm going to use that thread to notify people we are now using this thread. So ignore your second e-mail. I just read your last sentence. I take it back, there are two things we have agreed on. "Truth is truth because it is true, not because everyone agrees with it." THAT'S THE TRUTH! God Bless and Happy Thanksgiving, Andy |
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2 | Interpret John 8:24 | John 8:24 | servetus | 234549 | ||
Hi Andy, For some reason I think Tim is dodging your question by not completing your sentence. That was well put. I have done a lot of thinking which brought on a lot of confusion but I definitely think it says Jesus is God in the Bible but you shed some light that this is the only verse (John 8:24) that makes it mandatory for a person to believe that Jesus is Jehovah. Thanks for the insight on the LXX on the other feed. I have a lot of studying to do! I hope you had a good turkey day! Servetus |
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3 | Interpret John 8:24 | John 8:24 | Morant61 | 234550 | ||
Greetings Servetus! I thought I did answer his question! :-) But, it you insist that I complete the sentence, here goes: ....but I disagree with you because no one fully understands the Divine nature of Christ, especially not someone who is not even a Christian yet. Our understanding of Jesus is progressive and ever growing as we grow in Him and His Word. That is why we don't see a lot of verses that say one must believe this, this, this, and this before they can be saved. I hope this clears up my understanding. And, yes, I had a great turkey day! I pray that you and your family did as well. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Interpret John 8:24 | John 8:24 | servetus | 234612 | ||
Hi Tim, Thank you. We all had a great Thanksgiving. It seems like understand and believe have two different meanings to me. It seems like you would have to believe that Jesus is the "Divine nature" of Jehovah unless you will "die in your sins" because He claims the title "I am". I'm still puzzled why you wouldn't agree with the pastor at the coffee shop. If I understand right it is because you don't have to fully believe this since you told andy he can substitute believe for the word understand. But I know people can partially understand some things in the Bible but can people really partially believe some things especially verses that deal with salvation? Sincerely, Servetus |
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5 | Interpret John 8:24 | John 8:24 | Morant61 | 234615 | ||
Greetings Servetus Perhaps the best way to explain what I mean is that our belief is based upon our partial understanding. It is not that we believe partially, it is that we only understand partialy. |
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