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NASB | John 8:24 "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 8:24 "That is why I told you that you will die [unforgiven and condemned] in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am the One [I claim to be], you will die in your sins." [Ex 3:14; Matt 24:5; Mark 13:6; Luke 21:8] |
Subject: Interpret John 8:24 |
Bible Note: Greetings Andy! I think you are making too much of the supposed difference between 'understand' and 'believe'. Can someone really 'believe' that Jesus is "co-equal, co-eternal and con-substantial (one being) with the person of Jehovah" without having some understanding of what that means? If you would rather substitute 'believe' for 'understand' in my answer, feel free. But, it doesn't change the meaning of my answer. You may not agree with my answer, but no matter how many ways you ask the question, my answer is going to stay the same. :-) Now, in a conversation, there has to be two way communication. Is it really fair that you keep asking for my views of these verses, yet will not share what your views are on this topic. As I see it, there are only three possibilities. 1) You accept the orthodox doctrines of the Trinity and the Deity of Christ, but just don't see them in John 8:24. 2) You accept the Deity of Christ, but reject the Trinity. But, if this were the case, I don't see why you would have such an issue with John 8:24. 3) You reject both the Deity of Christ and the Trinity. If I had to guess, and I do since you won't tell us what you believe, I would say the third option is the correct one. You seem to be trying to get an answer that you want about John 8:24. I'm guessing that you think that if you get that answer, you can then 'disprove' the Deity of Christ. However, neither doctrine stands or falls upon this one verse. Even if John 8:24 is not an allusion to Ex. 3:14, there is plenty of Scripture that demonstrates Jesus is Jehovah. So, please, let's have a real conversation! Tell us what it is you really believe. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |