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1 | Interpret John 8:24 | John 8:24 | Morant61 | 234544 | ||
Greetings Andy! The reason I mentioned meeting face to face (not that it will probably ever happen) is that posts are not a very effective way to communicate. As evidence, even though I have explained several times what I believe about John 8:24 and salvation, you are still asking for me to answer. To begin my answer again, allow me to quote from JFB: "if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins — They knew well enough what He meant (Mar_13:6, Greek; compare Mat_24:5). But He would not, by speaking it out, give them the materials for a charge for which they were watching. At the same time, one is irresistibly reminded by such language, so far transcending what is becoming in men, of those ancient declarations of the God of Israel, “I AM HE” (Deu_32:39; Isa_43:10, Isa_43:13; Isa_46:4; Isa_48:12). See on Joh_6:20." Jesus is fully God. He is God incarnate. He is the Son of God. He is our Priest, our King, and Our Sacrifice. One cannot be saved if they do not understand at least some of this about Jesus. But, our understanding about Jesus prior to salvation, during salvation, and even in Heaven, is progressive in nature. Must someone fully understand the truth of His nature in order to be saved? NO! NO! NO! That is where I disagree with your former pastor's statement. Someone need not be able to fully explain the doctrine of the Trinity in order to be saved! However, someone cannot also not be saved if they believe that Jesus is just a great teacher, a man with wonderful insights. Now, I have answered your question as directly as I can. Will you answer a few for me? Who do you say Jesus is? Is He fully God? In other words, do you reject the Deity of Christ? Do you reject the Trinity itself or just the view that one must understand the Trinity to be saved? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Interpret John 8:24 | John 8:24 | servetus | 234548 | ||
Hi Tim, I don't think Andy ever wrote that his pastor said he had to UNDERSTAND the Trinity. He just said that he must believe that Jesus is Jehovah unless he would die in his sins. Andy asked you if you have to believe in a binity in order to not die in your sins. It seems like you would have to say yes if you think Jesus is claiming to be Jehovah by saying "I am". You would have to believe Jesus is consubstantial, equal and eternal with the "being" of Jehovah. Why didn't you complete his sentence? I find this topic to be very compelling and it is even more interesting because I haven't found another VERSE in the Bible that makes it mandatory for one to believe that Jesus is Jehovah. I hope you had a good turkey day! Servetus |
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