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1 | Iam having some questions | John 17:1 | MJH | 212501 | ||
John, Your conclusions are correct, but John 14:6b is an allusion to drawing near to God in the world to come. It's more than simply getting saved. It's the way to approach the Father, and that is through the High Priest, of which Jesus is in the world to come. Therefore it is natural that no one can approach the Father but through the son. (see note 1) John 3:3 is a response to a Jewish Pharisee. The predominate teaching on how a Gentile was to enter the covenant (Kingdom of God) according to the Pharisees was for them to be "born again as a Jew." (see notes 2 and 3) They are said to go into the Mikvah (baptismal) a Gentile and emerge born again as a Jew. For Nicodemus to hear his own words (we can assume they were also his words or those of his colleges) gains more interest because Nicodemus was already a Jew and in his mind, he was already secure in the covenant and therefore the Word to Come. (see note 4) Notice Nicodemus was not asking how he could get saved. He was simply saying Jesus must be from God. Jesus takes the conversation to being born again. The only reaction Nicodemus has is, “How can these things be?” Jesus’ argument is between the flesh and Spirit. Are you in the New Covenant of the spirit, or the Old Covenant of the flesh? If you follow the law from the flesh, you are not born anew and have no place in the new. Being born again in the spirit is to have a heart of flesh with the law written there. Being from Abraham by flesh is genealogy, but to be of Abraham’s faith is of the Spirit. Paul draws out these arguments in detail. I mention this, because Christians may be shocked to know that one of their favorite verses to quote has an historical context which comes from the Jewish Pharisaic teachings of Jesus’ day. MJH 1. For more on why this is true, just ask :-) 2. cf. b. Yevamot 47a-b; cf. n. 178 3. b. Yevamot 47b 4. cf. m. Sanhedrin 10:1; b. Sanhedrin 90a “All Israel has a place in the world to come….” |
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2 | Iam having some questions | John 17:1 | Val | 212506 | ||
Hello MJH, your comments are interesting. I am not sure I understand them since I have not read the Yevamot and Sanhedrin. What are these references and where can I find them? Are these the oral traditions, the 600 or so commandments added by the religious leaders? Thanking you in advance. It seems that when anyone, such as the religious leaders in that day, strays from the clear teaching of scripture and adds to it the commandments of men, it leads one astray. Don't we see this in the way that Jesus questioned Nicodemus? Happy New Year - Val | ||||||
3 | Iam having some questions | John 17:1 | skccab | 212509 | ||
Greetings Val, Just an FYI for you - the 600 or so commandments (actually 613) are the commandments found in Torah. As an example between the two (the 613 and oral), Exodus 23:19b "You shall not boil a young goat in it's mother's milk" - That is one of the 613 actual commandments of God given to Moses, and it doesn't sound so hard to keep. Now, the oral part that you are thinking about, observed to this very day, adds that one cannot even drink milk and eat meat together. Orthodox Jews keep milk products and meat products in separate refridgerators (my understanding is that they even have separate utensils, dishware and cookware) - all this to "help" them not break the actual simple commandment. Now THAT'S hard!! The number 613 seems big, but the vast majority of the laws for the ordinary citizen are similar to Lev. 19:35 and 36, 2 separate "laws", one is a "do" and the other says the very same thing as a "do not do" (or vice versa). Matt. 5:17-20. It was the Oral Law/Tradition that Jesus was so against, it put far too much burden on the ordinary guy, only to make the priests look oh so holy. :-) Have a safe New Year Cheri |
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4 | Iam having some questions | John 17:1 | Val | 212516 | ||
Greetings Cheri, yes I was referring to commandments, teachings outside of the first first books of the bible. Didn't they write down their oral law/tradition eventually? Happy New Year, Val |
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5 | Iam having some questions | John 17:1 | skccab | 212535 | ||
Happy New Year to you too, Val Sorry, took so long to get back to you. I just got in from a 15-hr day-trip to W. Va. Yes, I think they did, but when, I don't know. I think it's contained in the Mishna and/or Talmud (that MJH spoke of), but I'm not sure, and there's far more than 600 of them. I've never seen them myself (so I reserve the right to be wrong :o) ), but I'm told that there are more than a thousand pages on just the dietary laws. Too much reading for me!! Cheri |
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6 | Iam having some questions | John 17:1 | azurelaw | 212536 | ||
Wew, more than a thousand pages on just the dietary laws!!!! What a burden for the Jews! Really too much...too much for me, as well! Only the Bible could spend my entire life to study it and I am still not sure if I could accomplish it - my top priority of study :-) How wonderfully blessed that we are saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. Happy New Year to you. Shalom Azure |
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7 | Iam having some questions | John 17:1 | skccab | 212547 | ||
Azure, shalom!! An American phrase is appropriate right now - Ain't that the truth?!!! Amen and amen (I like this one much better!!) Like I said, I've only heard this is true, but I've heard it from more than one or two sources so I figure it must be true. Like you, that much reading must be for the Scriptures only!! So much more blessed reading. It's really strange how it works, but my eyesight is sooo bad that my eyes begin to hurt whenever I'm reading anything and I lose focus EXCEPT when I'm reading the Bible itself? God's way of keeping me focused??? You have a different new year, don't you? I pray that you have a wonderful, blessed year anyway :o) Cheri |
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