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1 | Human Power? | John 15:5 | DocTrinsograce | 128487 | ||
"To suppose that whatever God requireth of us that we have power of ourselves to do, is to make the cross and grace of Jesus Christ of none effect." --John Owen (1616-1683) | ||||||
2 | Human Power? | John 15:5 | Country Girl | 128618 | ||
I agree with Mr. Owen in that we have no power to do anything without the specific approval and blessing to do so. The only reason we're allowed to keep breathing, eating and sleeping is by the Grace of God and His Infinite Mercy. BUT that doesn't negate the message of James. We are to do our fair share of God's business just Christ started when He was twelve years old. We all must adopt a truly Godly lifestyle and spread the Good News that His Son has died for the whole world. Further we must imitate Christ and go about our lives bestowing acts of kindness on those whom we see in need. This is the only way God will accept our Christianity as being real and genuine. This is the only way we can be assured Christ's cleansing blood keeps us free from our sins as shown in 1 John 1. In this way, we'll keep our attitude in check and realize it's not anything we could possibly do or say to earn this Gift of Salvation. We simply owe a debt to our God, our Creator. We can merely hope to be counted worthy to be His vessel, His conduit, His lantern through which we must shine His light, show His priorities in our lives. In this way, like Paul, we must be willing to "become all things to all people, so that we might win some" to this lifestyle of God. Yes, indeed the power of the cross rests in our Lord and Savior of this world, IF we'll let Him become our Master and King of our lives. BUT that Mastery and Kingship must be true and genuine. Something only our God can measure on Judgment Day. Blessings to you. Country Girl |
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3 | Human Power? | John 15:5 | DocTrinsograce | 128641 | ||
You might want to reconsider your agreement with Owen, this passage, and James. Look at some of the following keywords and phrases in your post: BUT, we must, IF, let Him, etc. God is imutable: Psalms 33:10-11; 115:3; 135:5-6; Job 23:13-14; Is 14:24-27; 46:9-11; Eph 1:11; Pro 21:30-31; Numbers 23:19; James 1:17; Heb 6:16-18 God owns creation: 1 Chronicles 29:11-12; Job 34:13; Psalms 50:10-12 God completely controls creation: Psalms 107:25,29; Jeremiah 5:22; Job 26:12-14; Psalms 148:4-8 God removes and sets up kings and authorities: Daniel 2:20-21; Psalms 75:6-7; Romans 13:1 God controls authorities: Proverbs 21:1; Isaiah 31:3; Psalms 66:3; Daniel 3:14-19; 4:24-37; Acts 2:22-23; 4:25-28; John 19:11; Deuteronomy 2:24-33; Judges 9:23; Exodus 15:3; 2 Samuel 17:14; Isaiah 54:16 God creates and controls all things for His purposes: Colossians 1:16-17; Revelation 4:11 ...including afflictions: Hosea 6:1; Exodus 4:11; Psalms 90:2-3; Job 5:17-18 ...including death: Deuteronomy 32:39; 1 Samuel 2:6-10; Acts 17:24-26; Job 14:5 ...including evil and destruction: Isaiah 45:5-9; Amos 3:6; Jeremiah 18:11; Micah 2:1-3; Ecclesiastes 7:13-14; Psalms 78:49; Amos 8:11-12; Zephaniah 1:12; Lamentations 3:37-38; Job 1:12-22; 2:7-10; 34:10-12; Prov 16:4 God sovereignly controls the ultimate destiny of nations: Habakkuk 1:5-6,12; Joshua 11:19-20; Isaiah 37:21-29 ...and men: Prov 16:1,4,9,33; 19:21; 20:24; Job 12:6; Isaiah 22:11; Psalms 139:16-17 ...and unbelievers: Job 34:29; Matthew 11:21-27; Luke 4:24-27; 1 Peter 2:7-9; Revelation 17:8,17; 2 Thessalonians 2:11-13; Jude 4,11-13; 1 Peter 1:4-5; Matthew 25:41; Romans 11:5-10; John 12:37-41; Romans 9; Jeremiah 12:1-2; Exodus 7:1-5; 9:12-16; 10:1-3; Ezekiel 33:11,17-20 ...and believers: Ephesians 1:4,5,9,11; Acts 13:48; Ezekiel 34:11,12,15 Romans 9:20-21 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, "Why have you made me like this?" Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? Romans 11:33-36 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out! "For who has known the mind of the LORD? Or who has become His counselor? Or who has first given to Him And it shall be repaid to him?" For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen. The idea that we -- or anything else -- can thwart the purposes of God is frightening. If something is more powerful than God, then God is not God. "There is no attribute of God more comforting to his children than the doctrine of Divine Sovereignty. Under the most adverse circumstances, in the most severe troubles, they believe that Sovereignty hath ordained their afflictions, that Sovereignty overrules them, and that Sovereignty will sanctify them all. There is nothing for which the children of God ought more earnestly to contend than the dominion of their Master over all creation—the kingship of God over all the works of his own hands—the throne of God, and his right to sit upon that throne. On the other hand, there is no doctrine more hated by worldlings, no truth of which they have made such a foot-ball, as the great, stupendous, but yet most certain doctrine of the Sovereignty of the infinite Jehovah. Men will allow God to be everywhere except on His throne." --Charles Hadon Spurgeon "The Sovereignty of God is the stumbling block on which thousands fall and perish; and if we go contending with God about His sovereignty it will be our eternal ruin. It is absolutely necessary that we should submit to God as an absolute sovereign, and the sovereign of our souls; as one who may have mercy on whom He will have mercy and harden whom He will." --Johnathan Edwards "The Gospel has lost none of its ancient power. It is, as much today as when it was first preached, 'the power of God unto salvation.' It needs no pity, no help, and no handmaid. It can overcome all obstacles, and break down all barriers. No human device need be tried to prepare the sinner to receive it, for if God has sent it no power can hinder it; and if He has not sent it, no power can make it effectual." --Dr. Heinrik Bulinger |
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4 | Human Power? | John 15:5 | Country Girl | 128672 | ||
You seemed to have overlooked a key passage: Rev 3:20 'Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me. The Bible is clear on this matter (in my mind). God is not going to impose His Will and have His Way with us if we refuse Him. Sure He desparately wants to come into our lives and be placed on the throne of our hearts but He leaves that decision up to us. Blessings to you. Country Girl |
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5 | Human Power? | John 15:5 | CDBJ | 128674 | ||
Greetings Country Girl, There is a portion of your post that I have a hard time understanding. You made the following statement, speaking of God, in part. “Sure He desperately wants” I have a hard time trying to fathom how God could be desperate for anything, it goes against his attributes. Could you please explain this, using the Bible as your reference? Have a great day, CDBJ |
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6 | Human Power? | John 15:5 | Country Girl | 128681 | ||
There is no actual verse in the Bible that I could recall to depict God in this condition of being desperate. However, I do think we can draw the proper conclusion from God's actions. If you or I as parents were to offer one of our own child(ren) as a sacrifice, we would be either considered completely crazy or someone worthy of a prison sentence. But since God offered "His Only Begotten Son" as that Perfect Sacrifice, we can only say thank you, dear Lord. So in effect, it looks as if God is willing to do literally anything in His power (a pretty good picture of desperation if you ask me) to get you and me to re-evaluate our lives and become one of His. This is especially true when one re-reads the story of the crucifiction and Jesus' mockery of a trial. But again, in submission to your comment, I have to admit it's a difficult concept to think of our God as being desperate for anything since He created the whole universe and could make any one of us do as He please IF He chose to. I guess that's the crux of the whole matter, He chooses NOT to but He still wants very badly to have the whole world repent and give up this world of sin. I appreciate your giving me reason to make me think about what I've stated. Blessings to you. Country Girl |
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7 | Human Power? | John 15:5 | CDBJ | 128696 | ||
Hi Country Girl, The Bible tells us that God is Love, 1 John 4:8 (B) for God is love. God functions as a result of this component, love, toward us; It’s not because He is desperate or wants very badly, as you have suggested, or because of any consequence toward Him. You suggested, “He still wants very badly to have the whole world repent and give up this world of sin.” 2 Peter 3:9 (NIV) The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. The word “Wanting”, in the previous verse means that God’s love made the provision for us in the person of His Son Jesus the Christ. Repentance, as mentioned, and faith are two sides of the same coin you can't have one with out the other. John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. God’s love is very hard to explain in human terms because His love is so far above human love that it’s hard for the human mind to comprehend. God’s love doesn’t change because of circumstances or situations. It doesn’t grow or diminish because of situations; it's a constant. Malachi 3:6 (A) For I am the Lord, I change not; God is not in love, He is love! Human love is so unstable that we can love a person one day and hate them the next! God’s love isn’t dependent on us it’s dependent on Him therefore it doesn't change. Whether we fail or succeed won’t change the love of God one little bit, because it doesn’t depend on anything outside of Himself, it’s His nature and always has been and always will be. There is nothing that is antecedent to God’s love it is first and foremost. Even if, and when, we commit sins as a believer it doesn’t affect the love of God for us by one iota, because His fantastic AGAPE love isn’t dependent on us it’s dependent on Him and His essence; sin will put one out of fellowship but it doesn’t change God’s love for us. The total essence of God emanates from the fact that God is love. The Omniscient God knew in eternity past everything we would ever do, even after we became Christians and His love still revealed Christ to us and saved us, when we trusted in His Messiah, Jesus. I don’t think, personally speaking, that we will ever “completely” comprehend the love of God because it is so vast! 1 Cor. 13:8 Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall be done away; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall be done away. Hallelujah what a savior!!! Have a great day, CDBJ |
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8 | Human Power? | John 15:5 | Country Girl | 128809 | ||
Can you or Doc T show me in the Bible an example where someone established a relationship with God, lost it like King Saul and then God overpowered them and insisted on bringing him/her back into His Good Graces? Just need Book, Chapter and Verse to see this eternal security at work. Thanks. I guess I really open the challenge to anyone else on the Forum. Let's call it "Pick Up and Smear" just like we were kids. But I still pray for God's blessings on you all. Country Girl |
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9 | Human Power? | John 15:5 | Morant61 | 128813 | ||
Greetings Country Girl! Please, let's don't open this can of worms again! :-) There are thousands of posts on this subject on the forum. If you are interested, please use the search feature. However, you will quickly discover that the two sides of the this debate do not even read the same language! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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10 | Human Power? | John 15:5 | Country Girl | 128816 | ||
Can you refer me to a Forum post discussing such a Biblical example of eternal security as I described in my previous statement/question? Still hoping. Blessings to you. Country Girl |
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11 | Human Power? | John 15:5 | Morant61 | 128832 | ||
Greetings Country Girl! I would just recommend searching under: Calvinism Arminianism Eternal Security once saved, ect.... There are many posts on these issues from all different points of view. In the past though, these threads tended to be long and bitter debates. Neither side was conviced by the other side. So, rather than redebating it all again, just search the archives. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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