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1 | "Flies" should read "given" | Eccl 10:1 | Makarios | 158723 | ||
Greetings Sid, I appreciate your post, but I must disagree with you and ask you where you are getting your information.. Are you using only Strong's Exhaustive Concordance?? If you substitute the word 'given' for the word 'flies' in Ecc. 10:1, then you are not remaining true to the Hebrew text, you are not truly translating a passage from Hebrew to English because it would then make no sense at all in English, and you are breaking possibly every single translational and grammatical law that there is to follow in both Hebrew and English in translating a passage. You state: "Look at the translators of the KJV statement of disrespect for the word of God:" I'm not sure exactly what interpretation you are reading into the preface to the 1611 KJV. Are you saying that the KJV translators purposefully changed words to dilute the Word of God? I do believe to an extent and have seen that the KJV translators did not use very much uniformity or consistency with specific English words when the same Hebrew words were presented in varying passages. The NIV does the same thing. But I also believe that, for the most part, the KJV translation was among the best of the English translations at the time it was originally translated, and it still remains a formidable translation, although its archaisms have been updated in newer translations such as the NASB, NKJV, ESV and the NIV. So, if you are using one of these newer translations, then I really don't see where continuing to bash the KJV will do any good, since the majority of people on this website either use the NASB or something other than the KJV, and it is commonly accepted that the KJV does indeed have its faults (as every translation does). Now, if you are using your argument (that the KJV translators purposefully changed the words to be misleading) to state that the Hebrew word 'zebub' in Ecclesiates 10:1 MUST be changed to the English verb 'given' instead of being rendered as the English word 'flies' (which is the rendering found in every Bible translation since 1611) to carry over the appropriate meaning, then you are simply wrong! And, if that is essentially your argument, then your argument does not stand up against the Bible or good sense. Truthfully, Makarios |
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2 | "Flies" should read "given" | Eccl 10:1 | sid | 158742 | ||
To: Makanos: I am primarily a Bible expositor. All of the conservative Protestant expositors had to begin by editing the translation; because they are all so bad. They are all so bad because they have retained thousands of KJV errors. They have four names of God wrong because the KJV had them wrong. However, the Internet is full of websites with the proper translations of these names. James Strong identified "Elohim" to be "plural gods"; both pagan gods, and Father and Son. Matthew Henry and Robert Jamieson agreed. The webmasters of these sites also agree; but they think that we should stick with status quo. William D. Mounce's lexicon identified "Christos" to be "Anointed." The Interlinear Bibles all read "Iesous" instead of "Jesus." The British invented the letter "J" in about AD 1725. HWH is "to be." The prefix "Y" reads "he." HYHA is "I Am." God taught this to Moses. HWHY is "He Is." Moses taught this to Israel. Jesus came teaching "I Am." Peter confessed, "You are Anointed, Son of God." Hebrews reads, "Who being radiance of the glory ... of essence of Him" - Heb 1.3; and other similar verses. The Jews did not believe in "The Son of God" - Psalm 2.7. They changed the names of God (plural Gods, He Is) in the Septuagint. The "traditions of men" is the great stumbling block. I have translated, and interpreted, all of Ecclesiastes. "Death given" (10.1) is about the death of Israel being prophesied in Verse 3.2. Matthew Henry and Andrew Fausset agree with this interpretation of Verse 3.2. Please believe me, that I do not speak foolishly or recklessly. Respectfully submitted. sid |
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3 | "Flies" should read "given" | Eccl 10:1 | Emmaus | 158746 | ||
sid, It would seem to be a safe assumption from your post that you are not from the "conservative Protestant" school of exposition. What exactly is your point of reference within the Christian spectrum? I think we can safely rule out Catholic and Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, Lutheran, Reformed and Methodist. Can we assume that you have had some formative training from some specific perspective, like just about everyone else? Emmaus |
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4 | "Flies" should read "given" | Eccl 10:1 | sid | 158765 | ||
Note: Emmaus: Thank you for your reply. "The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong ... but time and chance happen to them all" - Eccl 9.11. Let me share with you an anecdote: Mary Slaney was in a women's 16K race in Canada against a Swede who had just set the world record for that event. The race was televised worldwide. Slaney came out fast, and took an early lead. She was challenged by several others for the point of the race, but she held them all off. Mary continued to lead until near the end of the race. The last mile was four laps in a stadium track. The earnest contenders made a valiant effort to catch her. With 110 yards to go, they were all winded, and began to lag behind. At that time, I said to myself, "The race is over." Then a stocky old man pushed between two spectators on the infield of the track, stuck his head and chest onto the track. Mary Slaney was down and out. I do not recall who won the race; but it certainly was not the swift. This demonstrated the control of God in the affairs of men, and women. Wisdom and Understanding, and Knowledge, operate by the same method: "You have to be in the right place at the right time." The Lord God Almighty has blessed me tremendously, for I was raised up in the faith during the Millennium (AD 1859 - 1959). They called themselves "The Restoration Movement"; and Disciples of Christ, and Christian Churches, and Churches of Christ. I am a historian of Bible Commentaries from the Protestant Reformation Movement, and from the Millennium, and from "Satan loosed a Little" (Rev 20.3 - AD 1959- 2004; continuing to AD 2015. In 1943, a man of God taught a summary of Jesus' Revelation in one hour. I was 10 years old. Papal Dark Ages. Papal Inquisitions. Babylon fell AD 1870 (this is in all encyclopedias under "Italy"). "Satan will be loosed in the future" (Rev 20.7-8). "To be forewarned is to be forearmed." I witnessed the "Murder of the Millennium." I met "Gog" face-to-face. I am, "A Living Link to the Millennium." The churches today are unaware of our teaching during the Millennium. "The Censorship"; or, "The Filthy Five" has banned our teaching. For "Filthy Five" see: Rev 20.7-10. I have never read a man who believed in "The 7 Spirits of God." And, I have done a lot of reading. But Jesus had taught me what they are, and how to receive them,and how to keep them (for some lose this priceless treasure; see: Heb 6.1-9). The history of the kingdom of God on earth, is being suppressed by The Censorship. Jesus also informed me of "The Miracle of 1992." For over 1900 years Bible expositors and churches have been bold to deny that "God can count to three." But now, "The Elect" can count to three. Sent in love, sid |
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5 | "Flies" should read "given" | Eccl 10:1 | Emmaus | 158766 | ||
Sid, I must say it will take me a while to absorb all that. What was the Resurrection in A.D. 1775 if I may ask? Emmaus |
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