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1 | Still under 10 C's? | Ps 111:7 | kalos | 57902 | ||
chris: First, let me say that we are not saved by keeping the Law. However, when Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law, what he meant was: he did not come to abolish the law. Many times I have heard people say that in Matthew 5:17, the word "fulfill" means to abolish. If that be true, then Jesus is saying: "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law...I did not come to abolish, but to abolish." Second, you write: "James emphasizes that if you are under any of the Law you are under all of it." That is not what the verse SAYS. What it says is: NASB James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. AMPLIFIED James 2:10 For whosoever keeps the Law [as a] whole but stumbles and offends in one [single instance] has become guilty of [breaking] all of it. Grace to you, kalos |
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2 | Still under 10 C's? | Ps 111:7 | chris a | 57907 | ||
Kalos, I never said Christ came to abolish the Law. But we are not 'under' the Law, Christ redeemed us from the Law and we fulfill the righteous requirement of the Law because He fulfilled it for us! For us to turn around and say, 'I need to fulfill it myself' is an insult to Christ! I must also mention that you are interpreting Mat. 5:17 quite differently than I would, but we don't need to go there now, and that 'fulfill' certainly can be translated 'accomplish' or 'complete'. You again quote one verse in James, but if you follow through, I believe it is clear what he is saying: James 2:8-12 (ASV) ΒΆ Howbeit if ye fulfil the royal law, according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well: but if ye have respect of persons, ye commit sin, being convicted by the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is become guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou dost not commit adultery, but killest, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as men that are to be judged by a law of liberty. James continues that if you keep one command from the Law but break another you're guilty of all, why? Because God spoke ALL the commands and ordinances to Moses, so if you claim to keep one of the Laws you must keep them all, as they have a common source, ie Mosaic covenant or Law of Moses, and he doesn't mean just the Ten C's because the thought starts with the Royal law from Deut. which is not one of the Ten C's, but notice what he ends with in vs. 12! What is the Law of Liberty? I would argue that it is the same liberty that Paul speaks of in Galatians Ch. 4 and 5. I believe James is saying that if you obey the Law you do well(v.8), but if you live by the Law you will be judged based upon the whole Law(vs.9-11), so speak and act as one under the Law of Christ, ie liberty (v.12). I don't believe James is endorsing the Law in vs. 8, because of the warning in vs. 12. The question I have for you is, how do you interpret vs. 12, what is the Law of Liberty? GOD bless!! chris |
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