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NASB | Psalm 111:7 ¶ The works of His hands are truth and justice; All His precepts are sure. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Psalm 111:7 ¶ The works of His hands are truth and [absolute] justice; All His precepts are sure (established, reliable, trustworthy). |
Subject: 4th commandment has been done away? |
Bible Note: rferg, GOD doesn't want us to live by the Ten Commandments because they cause in us death! The Ten are good, holy, and spiritual but as long as I have a flesh body they cause sin in me. See Romans 7:4-12(LIT): So that, my brothers, you also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ, for you to become Another's, to One raised from the dead, so that we may bear fruit to God. For when we were in the flesh, the passions of sin were working in our members through the law for the bearing of fruit unto death. But now we have been set free from the law, having died to that in which we were held, so as for us to serve in newness of spirit, and not in oldness of letter. What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Let it not be! But I did not know sin except through law; for also I did not know lust except the law said, "You shall not lust." (Ex. 20:17) But sin taking occasion through the commandment worked every lust in me; for apart from law, sin is dead. And I was alive apart from law once, but the commandment came, and sin came alive, and I died. And the commandment which was to life, this was found to be death to me; for sin taking occasion through the commandment deceived me, and through it killed me. So indeed the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good. Then that which is good, has it become death to me? Let it not be! But sin, that it might appear to be sin, having worked out death to me through the good, in order that sin might become excessively sinful through the commandment. It may be a nice world if everyone followed the Ten Commandments (TC) but people would still be going to hell if they didn't know Christ, so I'm not so sure that should be anything that we should be desiring. I don't live by the TC because Paul says we are no longer under the Law, he also claims that if you are under any of the Law you are under all of it (over 600 ordinances and commands). I have some questions and comments that I would appreciate a response to: 1. Can you show me anywhere in the New Testament where the TC are separated from the rest of the Mosaic Law? I don't see anything in the NT to suggest that the TC are separate and Paul quotes from the Law in Gal. 3:10, 'Accursed is everyone who does not abide by ALL things written in the book of the Law, to perform them.'(NASB, emphasis mine.) In vs. 12 of the same ch. Paul says, "However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, 'He who practices them shall live by them.'"(NASB) So, are you saved by faith or Law; because Paul says it can't be both! 2. When the council of Acts 15 got together why didn't they tell the Gentiles to follow the TC if they were required? The council came together because some believed, "It is necessary to circumcise them and to direct them to observe the Law of Moses."(NASB) If we were under the TC why didn't Peter and James conclude that the Gentiles must adhere to the commandments? 3. How do you interpret Gal. 4:21 - 31? How about Gal. 3:23 - 29? Are we back under the tutor of the Law, and if so, what does Paul mean when he says, 'we are no longer under a tutor.'? 4. How do you interpret II Cor. 3:7 18? Clearly, Paul is speaking of the TC, 'engraved on stones'. And these letters engraved on stones are called the Ministry of Death and the Ministry of Condemnation. If the TC caused in us death and condemnation, how can we now be under them and be free? We'll stop here, and I hope you will continue this discussion with me! GOD bless!! Chris |