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1 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | mitchbornagain | 146633 | ||
You yourself those you listed ended well, and thats what I'm saying too brother. I am saying that even though sickness may come, even though illness might come in your life, Christ has already redeemed us from it, all we have to do is let our faith recieve it for us. Yes, Christians still get sick, just like Christians can still fall into sin, but I can assure you if they do fall into sin, they have an advocate at the right of the Father who is pleading their case, and they can repent, and be made right with God again. The fact sickness comes on people, doesn't mean God wants it to, he might have had to allow it on certain people for the purposes of discipline, or perhaps some because they did not believe he was the healer, thus making his promise of no effect in their lives. I can't say for sure what happened to Job, but I can tell you, that Job was in fear before the bad things began to happen in his life, and living in fear, of course, is lacking faith, Jesus addressed that on the boat with his disciples. Take for instance John the Baptist, do you notice that he was offended at the Lord? Perhaps he would not have been beheaded if he had not doubted God, I can't say for sure, all I can say, is that I know in whom I have believed! :) And if God gets glory out of Christians being sick, then why aren't we praying that we get sick? And then when we do get sick, why aren't we praying that our children and our wives or husbands get the same wonderful blessing of an illness such as we have recieved. Not only that, but if God gets glory from people being sick, Jesus did all that he could, to make sure the Father got no glory in this life. And you said what you ahve is true faith, I'm not going to say you have no faith, but you said true faith doesn't dictate to God what he must do.. and you are right, true faith speaks the Word, and believes God, no matter how things around him or her looks. No matter how many Christians get sick, no matter how many peolple are poor, true faith says I don't care what the situation looks like, I believe God, and he has said by the stripes of Jesus I am healed, so glory be to God, get out of my way devil because I'm the healed of the Lord! I understand not everyone recieves their healing, but the key word there is recieve. I can buy you a brand new car, and if you won't recieve it, it won't do you any good. And if you dont know I bought it for you, it won't do you any good. If people don't get their healing which has been provided by the Cross, or if they refuse to put value on the Word, then it certainly won't do them any good, and they will perish in their lack of knowledge. And also let me try to make it clear, you dont' have to have a terminal illness , or any illness for that matter, to leave this earth. The end of your life, taking your last breath, can be at a very old age, for no reason other than your course has been run. God doesn't have to send something evil, such as sickness, to bring you home. He sent Christ for that. Mitch |
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2 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | justme | 146672 | ||
Mitchbornagain: I read with amazement that you said "John the Baptist might not have been beheaded if he had not doubted God." This is a profound statement for you to make! This is twisting the meaning of Scripture to a new level, that I have never ever seen before! Remaining silent about your false understanding of the meaning of such a simple Scriptual text would be to give you an signal of agreement. I encourage you to look at Romans 14:22, which says I am to be careful in what I approve of. I loudly proclain you are totally off base!!! Having rerad a few of your notes, I wonder where your Scripture support comes from, as it looks like most of what you say is not Scriptual. This is a Bible Study forum, not an opinion forum, and I am amazed you neglected to notice the basics of how to respond to notes. Perhaps you should start fresh and reread your notes and either state your Scriptual evidence or retract and correct your mostly wild ideas. You make it clear that you are in the Word of Faith Movement. There are others that are in the forum that belong to the WOFM and are not just stating their opinion. I am deeply concerned that you have such a flawed view of healing. The physical decomposing of our earthly tent is a constant fact of nature that will end in physical death. Physical healing at best is only for a short number of years. Is it not better to be with the Lord than here? Paul believed to be with the Lord was gain for him. When I see that the emphasis on healing is proof of faith, or lack of healing is proof there is a lack of faith, I get rather red faced. How sad it is that this false theology is propergated and passed on by those who largely have never experienced walking in the valley of death. It seems easy to make such proclaimations of healings when you have never experienced real life threatening illness. Speaking from my personal experience of nearly 40 years of numerious serious life threatening illness, I have learned to seek to be in the center of God's will, and not tell Him what I want, but to seek His will, rather that mine. Perhaps you would like to dialogue about this, and I would be pleased to do so. I sincerely hope this gives you something else to consider before responding with just your learned from other flawed teachers. Blessings. justme |
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3 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | BradK | 146677 | ||
Hi justme, Let me say a LOUD, AMEN! You are absolutley right in your comments about Mitch. Good, solid advice is obviously falling on deaf ears! Folks, this is a Study Bible Forum, not an opinion or speculation forum. It is not for parroting the teachings (or errors) of spurious doctrines. Thanks for addressing the issues head-on and speaking so forthrightly. When 2 or 3 brothers are saying the same thing, it would occur to me that maybe, just maybe, I might want to listen and consider the advice. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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