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1 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | mitchbornagain | 146633 | ||
You yourself those you listed ended well, and thats what I'm saying too brother. I am saying that even though sickness may come, even though illness might come in your life, Christ has already redeemed us from it, all we have to do is let our faith recieve it for us. Yes, Christians still get sick, just like Christians can still fall into sin, but I can assure you if they do fall into sin, they have an advocate at the right of the Father who is pleading their case, and they can repent, and be made right with God again. The fact sickness comes on people, doesn't mean God wants it to, he might have had to allow it on certain people for the purposes of discipline, or perhaps some because they did not believe he was the healer, thus making his promise of no effect in their lives. I can't say for sure what happened to Job, but I can tell you, that Job was in fear before the bad things began to happen in his life, and living in fear, of course, is lacking faith, Jesus addressed that on the boat with his disciples. Take for instance John the Baptist, do you notice that he was offended at the Lord? Perhaps he would not have been beheaded if he had not doubted God, I can't say for sure, all I can say, is that I know in whom I have believed! :) And if God gets glory out of Christians being sick, then why aren't we praying that we get sick? And then when we do get sick, why aren't we praying that our children and our wives or husbands get the same wonderful blessing of an illness such as we have recieved. Not only that, but if God gets glory from people being sick, Jesus did all that he could, to make sure the Father got no glory in this life. And you said what you ahve is true faith, I'm not going to say you have no faith, but you said true faith doesn't dictate to God what he must do.. and you are right, true faith speaks the Word, and believes God, no matter how things around him or her looks. No matter how many Christians get sick, no matter how many peolple are poor, true faith says I don't care what the situation looks like, I believe God, and he has said by the stripes of Jesus I am healed, so glory be to God, get out of my way devil because I'm the healed of the Lord! I understand not everyone recieves their healing, but the key word there is recieve. I can buy you a brand new car, and if you won't recieve it, it won't do you any good. And if you dont know I bought it for you, it won't do you any good. If people don't get their healing which has been provided by the Cross, or if they refuse to put value on the Word, then it certainly won't do them any good, and they will perish in their lack of knowledge. And also let me try to make it clear, you dont' have to have a terminal illness , or any illness for that matter, to leave this earth. The end of your life, taking your last breath, can be at a very old age, for no reason other than your course has been run. God doesn't have to send something evil, such as sickness, to bring you home. He sent Christ for that. Mitch |
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2 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | T'oma | 146658 | ||
A number of years ago, I got sucked into the "name it and claim it mob". The pastor dared to accuse "unhealed" people of having little faith. Ironically, the pastor's whole family wore glasses. The last Sunday we attened that church was Palm Sunday (years ago). This "what you say is what you get" pastor declared it would be sunny on Easter morning for the sheduled "sunrise" service. It was raining too hard for us to go, and we never returned to the offshoots (or the likes) of Tulsa cults. T'oma |
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3 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | mitchbornagain | 146744 | ||
T'oma I am sorry you had a bad experience with a certain church. I am not going to sit and judge as to weather that particular church is living for God, they might not, but again, they might just be mislead. However I can tell you, you can't base the Word of God, upon one single instance in your life, if we were allowed to do that, then people who are unsaved would have a good enough reason never to go to church because of people such as Jimmy Swaggart. As for saying people who are unhealed has little faith, that might be a bold statement, but let me just point you in one direction that might help with that. Read the story about the storm that arose on the sea, and the ship Jesus was asleep on, was being hit largely by the waves. ( Mark 5:35-41 ) We won't get into much of a discussion of it h ere, because it would be to offtopic, but just read over that. And then ask yourself why was Jesus asleep, and then why is it he told them they had no faith. Mitch |
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4 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | Morant61 | 146749 | ||
Greetings Mitch! First of all, the correct Scripture reference is Mark 4:35-41. Secondly, it is interesting that in this account, Jesus calms the storm in spite of the fact that the disciples have no faith. ;-) How does this fit in with the 'word of faith' teaching? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | mitchbornagain | 146751 | ||
Oh yes thank you! By the way is there a way to edit the post so I can correct the chapter number? In case that person doesn't read this one? I'd like them to have it correctly. What I was pointing out in that post, is that Jesus was asleep because he told his disciples to go to the other side, it was their boat, it wasn't his boat, he didn't need to be awake taking care of it, it was THEIR boat. They had authority to rebuke the storm, he told you to speak to your mountain, he told you to cast out devils, he told you to lay hands on the sick, he told you that if you drink any deadly thing it'll not harm you, he had been teaching them the Word of God, that very day, yet they didn't put value on the Word, so when the devil kicked up a little storm, they God mad at Jesus didn't they? But I'm just telling you, that it was their boat, and if it wasn't going across, its their fault. (By the way, are we suppose to have this topic in another thread so this doesn't get off topic?) Mitch |
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6 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | Morant61 | 146764 | ||
Greetings Mitch! Sorry, but there is no way to edit a post once it has been posted! :-( You state that the disciples had the authority to rebuke the storm. Where does Scripture state this? Further, where does Scriptue state that the Devil kicked up the storm? I don't see their lack of faith as a lack of faith in their own 'authority', but in His authority and person. They didn't really understand who He was, if they had, the storm would not have worried them. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | mitchbornagain | 146768 | ||
All I can tell you Sir, is re-read through the scriptures I've posted. And if you wish, back up a little bit, and see how Jesus had been teaching them, and how he had been saying the devil will come immediately to try to steal the Word from your hearts. The passages I refer you to state that it was the same day as he had been teaching them, that they got into the boat. Scripture doesn't say for certain it was the devil who tried to make that ship sink on the sea via a storm. But the storm did get them to lose their faith in what they had been taught, so it certainly worked for the benefit of Satan. And the reason I can say they had the authority, is because Jesus said Let us go over to the other side. He told them what to do, and brother if you have a command from God Almighty, you have all the authority in this World to make it happen. Mitch |
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