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1 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | Morant61 | 146605 | ||
Greetings Mitch! First of all, welcome to the forum! Secondly, I have been following your posts as time permits, so I am not sure if anyone has responded to your Scripture references or not. So, I would like to quickly address them. 1) Ex. 23:25: The context of this verse is in God's dealings with the nation of Israel as He prepares to lead them into the promised land. These promises are part of His covenant with them. They are not a promise for everyone. 2) Ps. 107:20 is a historical affirmation, not a promise. 3) Ps. 118:17 is another historical affirmation. The author did in fact die at some point in the future. So, this is not a promise for all. 4) Prov. 3:7-8: Proverbs are very general promises. These two verses indicate that living in fear of the Lord is healthier than not living in fear of the Lord. We can certainly all agree with this premise. But, there is not specific promise of healing for all people at all times. 5) Prov. 4:20-22: Same as above. 6) Mt. 8:16-17: Again, this is an historical statement, not a promise. It records one event where Jesus healed all who were brought to Him. However, nothing in the passage states that this will be normative for all people. 7) 1 Pet. 2:24: This is one of those great examples where people claim that the verse means something without really thinking about what they are claiming. This verse, if it is taken to refer to physical healing, would indicate that a Christian CANNOT get sick! :-) If physical healing is part of the atonement, then faith or no faith, once a person becomes a christian, all physical problems should be healed and that person should never get ill again, nor would that person die. This is pretty good evidence that these verse has been misinterpreted. :-) 8) 3 John 2: Again, this is not a promise, but a greeting from one friend to another. It is interesting that you were asked to provide Scriptural references that state that God always heals everyone, but not one of these verses says such a thing. :-) Let me state publically that I certainly do believe that God can and will heal. I have seen it many times in my life. However, I also believe that Scripture does not guarantee us healing. We are servants of God. If He wills to heal us, then so be it. If He does not, then so be it! :-) Like Job, either way I will praise Him. The only harm to what you are teaching is that it sets up a false reality. I have been on the receiving end of this kind of teaching. My wife and I lost a son to congential heart defects. David only lived to be 9 months old. Everyone was praying for him. God choose not to heal him. But, according to your teaching, it is always God's will to heal. Those with whom I fellowshipped at the time also believed this lie. We heard all the comments. We must not have had enough faith. :-( Yet, our faith in God was strong enough to carry us through our loss. It was strong enough to enable us to minister to other's who had lost children. It was strong enough to teach us empathy for those who have suffered loss. What I am trying to say my friend is that we need balance in this area of doctrine. Yes, God heals. Yes, He would probably heal more often if we would really believe. But, Scripture never promises us that everyone will always be healed. Sometimes, God works through the sickness and even the death of a saint. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | mitchbornagain | 146607 | ||
I can not understand how you think God CAN heal, yet that at times he just choses not to. I've adressed all these other concerns of yours in other posts, so I don't feel the need to repeat myself. You don't think God promises everyone the same thing, just a few, thats your choice to make, my Bible tells me God is no respecter of persons. And youa re like the billionth person who has said I haven't given Scripture in my posts, and again I will say yes I have. Sometimes I assume people will recognize them, so I leave out the Book Chapter and Verse, I'll try to not do that so much in the future, to clarify things for you better. Thanks for your note! Mitch |
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3 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | Searcher56 | 146610 | ||
So before Tim repsonded there were 999,999,999 people who have said you haven't given Scripture in your posts. That is impressive. When you get sick and He doesn't heal you right away, what are you going to do. |
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4 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | mitchbornagain | 146612 | ||
Sir, you know good and well that I was just pointing out that many people have said I don't use scripture, not that I was serious in meaning a billion have said it, I was just meaning, a lot of people have said it. I'll pray for you brother, but there is no need to discuss Scripture with you, when you refuse to even walk in love, ungodly conversation such as your remark here, will profit noone on this website. I'm here to study, and to help others. I'm sorry its angered you Sir. God Bless, Mitch |
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5 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | Hank | 146665 | ||
Mitch ::: Young man, you need to study Scripture more and in the meantime be less free with your opinions, which for the most part are not grounded in Scripture at all. Now, before you respond to me, I want you to know who you're responding to. I am now past 70 years old and have been a Christian since I was 14 years old -- that's well over half a century, young man. I have had two heart attacks, quadruple by-pass surgery and must wear a pacemaker-defibrillator the rest of my life. Don't give me this nonsense about receiving God's healing! I know both experientially and from the clear teaching of Scripture that physical healing is not a guaranty from God and that Christ died on the cross for my SINS, not so that I can sport a healthy body. And I add an epilogue: This is a Bible study Forum; it is not a sounding board for incessant opinions. Other of my colleagues have admonished you to cut out the plethora of unfounded opinions and, if you wish to continue to participate in the goings on of the Forum, to stick with what Scripture clearly teaches. Let's have no more of this business which is prefaced with "I can't prove this but..." and what follows is nothing on earth but opinion, conjecture, speculation. You say you are here to study and help others. Well, fine. Study and keep on studying. Paste 2 Timothy 2:15 on your bathroom mirror! Study involves the absorption of knowledge, not the dispensing of opinion. Right now, after looking at your posts, I have to tell you that you may best help others by being sure of what you are saying, by being sure that what you say is supported solidly by Scripture, and by keeping your ungrounded opinions to yourself. And above all, you would be well advised to speak less and listen more to what some of the seasoned Christians on the Forum have been trying to teach you. May you incur God's blessings in your quest for the truth of His eternal word. No one has been trying to rain on your parade, young friend, nor dampen your zeal: but zeal without knowledge is as dangerous as a ship without a rudder. --Hank | ||||||