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1 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | mitchbornagain | 146422 | ||
Good Question, I should have given you some of the Scriptures which will show you God's will is healing for all. To keep me from running out of space I'll just give you Book chapter and verse, instead of typing out the entire passages, you can feel free to look them up yourself. Now remember, these are only just a FEW of the scriptures which show you God's will is to be a healer to all who will come to him. Ex 23:25 Psalm 107:20 Psalm 118:17 Prov 3:7,8 Prov. 4:20-22 Mt. 8:16,17 1 Pet. 2:24 III John 2 Like I said, this is only a few of the places, but if you run your references in your Bible, use yourself a Good concordance such as Strongs, you can find many, many more. Also I think its already been said here, but lets remember Jesus said that he was doing the will of the Father, so if we dont believe God's will is to heal all who are opressed by the devil, then we would have to say Jesus was going against the will of God, and that my friends, is about as unholy a statement as one could ever make. Thanks for the Question, Hope I cleared things up, Mitch |
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2 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | DocTrinsograce | 146485 | ||
Dear Mitch, Exodus 23:25 -- This is a promise to the children of Israel Psalm 107:20 -- This is spiritual healing, check the meaning of the word "destructions" Psalm 118:17 -- This verse (and Psalm) has nothing to do with sickness Proverbs 3:7-8 -- This is also about turning from sin, and consequently not being subject to the ills that accompany such sin Proverbs 4:20-22 -- Again, this is not about God healing, but about the deleterious effects of sin, and the benefits that accrue by eschewing them Matthew 8;16-17 -- Yes, Jesus healed people in His earthly ministry, and this was a sign that He was Messiah 1 Peter 2:24 -- Christ's atonement brought spiritual healing to those who believe on Him (this has already been discussed) 3 John 2 -- A greeting for health and prosperity for his readers Your second to last paragraph is non sequitur. It also contains a false dichotomy. In addition it puts words into the mouths of those who disagree with you. Please try to show greater kindness and respect to your fellow forum members, as befitting those for whom Christ died. None of your Scriptures prove, let alone state, your conclusion that "God's will is healing for all." In addition, you continue to equate -- or at least treat as interchangeable -- spiritual healing and physical healing, which you have not yet successfully established as being Scriptural. In Him, Doc |
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3 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | mitchbornagain | 146554 | ||
Well Doc, I understand its hard for you to see the truth which God has revealed to the world since the foundation. However I gave you scripture's which prove its God's will to heal. Will you please post me some where its written that God said no to a persons healing. Show me someone who went to Christ and was denied, or someone who was denied healing by the early Church in the book of acts. I have said nothing not out of love, I'm sorry you seem to think otherwise. I'm not sure what you are trying to say is false, other than the fact you disagree with the Scriptures which show God to be merciful, and love. Lets for instance take one of the scripture's you object to, you said the promise was for the children of Israel, whom do you consider a child of Israel, because I can tell you the moment I was born again I became a Jew, have you read where Paul wrote, And if you be Christ's, then are you Abraham's seed, and an heir according to the promise? I have many around me, and in my family even, who believe its not God's will to heal everyone, and its not God's will to prosper everyone, so let me just ask you this same question : If its not God's will to heal everyone, why do you think James wrote for us to pray for the sick that they be healed, would God's word be commainding us to pray for something outside his will? Also, if there are some people in this life whom should be beated down and destroyed by sicknes and disease, how many believers do you know who have gotten before the Lord in prayer and something to the effect of ' Lord, let me be the one who recives cancer this very day, let me be the one who has no good health at all in this life. ' Also, if you belive its not God's will to heal everyone, I would assume you don't keep any medicines in your house, because remember, keven if you have a headache, to take an asprin with your theory, coudl be going against the will of the Almighty, since its possible, he wants you sick, and not healed. Again, I am not walking outside of love when I say these things, I am standing firm on the Word, give me some scriptures which show we should not pray for the sick, where Jesus said we can't be healed, where God has ever said he is no longer known by him own name Jehova-Rapha (spelling?) And if he is no longer to be known by his redemptive name which means he is the Lord who healeth thee, then why is it we can even say he is still known by his redemptive name which means we are forgiven and thus, can enter heaven when we leave this earth? Thanks for your response, again I apologize if my wording before made it seem as though I had no love for anyone here. Its my intention to only declare what God has said, though if it offends you, I am sorry, take it up with the Father, its his words, and his will, not mine. Mitch |
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4 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | mark d seyler | 146559 | ||
Mitch, to interject for a moment: Php 2:26 For he longed after you all, and was full of heaviness, because that ye had heard that he had been sick. 27 For indeed he was sick nigh unto death: but God had mercy on him; and not on him only, but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow. Just by the sound of Paul's words, he saw the healing of his fellow as a sovereign work of God - he did not, for instance, say "he was sick, so we claimed his healing and he was well". Jesus allowed Lazarus to die, not healing him, so that He could perform the greater miracle. Paul speaks in Galations of the infirmity of his flesh beings a testing. And the man healed by Peter at the Beautiful gate at the temple had been lame from birth, laid there daily to beg. How many times did Jesus walk right by him? Dozens? Hundreds? "Well, he didn't ASK for healing!" But he didn't ask Peter either. When it was God's time - His time - He healed him. Not according to my time, or my method, but He is sovereign, and I am subservient. And all things, all sickness, all injury, all things work for the good to us who love Him. Love in Christ, Mark |
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5 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | BradK | 146560 | ||
Hello Mark, Very well said! I'm not commending you just because I agree with you, but rather because of the truth and wisdom conveyed in your remarks. You hit the nail on the head:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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6 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | mark d seyler | 146565 | ||
Hi Brad, You know, for all the scriptures we could look at, for all the logic we could share, I always come back to Jesus in the garden pleading with His Father. Name it and claim it just doesn't work for me. Jesus only had to but die, and He would have purchased us for Himself. But His Father decreed for Jesus additional suffering (ref Heb. 5:7) for a purpose - to in some way make Him complete - perhaps to prove His obedience in the face of such horrific suffering. How can I say God will never want me to suffer, when so much is said of Jesus? Properity doctrine? That just doesn't seem like a life following Jesus! May we both stand, no matter what the test! God bless! Love in Christ, Mark |
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