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1 | When may a church compromise the Bible? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17229 | ||
Jensen, if I may be so bold, I would recommend you catching some of the televised broadcasts of Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Joyce Meyers, or James Kennedy. Or the radio shows of Focus on the Family. They are all great teachers, and motivators. With love, Kelkat |
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2 | When may a church compromise the Bible? | Hebrews | kalos | 17237 | ||
I would recommend that you NOT watch or listen to Kenneh Copeland, Joyce Meyer or any other Word Faith teachers. Why not Joyce Meyer? See the following posting: "Did Jesus spend 3 days in hell? Answer Bible general kalos Mon 09/24/01, 7:51am." Why not Kenneth Copeland? See below. Word of faith movement Concerning the teaching known variously as “positive confession,” the “faith” teaching, and the “prosperity” doctrine, some of the best known American television evangelists subscribe either partly or wholly to this teaching. Its chief representatives today seem to be Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Fred Price, Paul and Jan Crouch, John Avanzini, Benny Hinn, Jesse Duplantis, and Marilyn Hickey, though there are many other evangelists, teachers, and writers promoting the teaching. It is CRI’s considered opinion that this teaching, at least in its complete form as expressed by the above people, is at best extremely aberrational and at worse cultic. (We use the term “aberrational” to refer to teaching which is decidedly unbiblical and damaging to authentic Christian faith, but which is not quite so heretical that its adherents must be considered non-Christians.) In the past, CRI has attempted to meet with some of these people and dialogue with them concerning their teachings, but most of them have refused. In brief, the teachings of these men may be summarized as follows: God created man in “God’s class,” as “little gods,” with the potential to exercise the “God kind of faith” in calling things into existence and living in opportunity, however, by rebelling against God in the Garden and taking upon ourselves Satan’s nature. To correct this situation, Jesus Christ became a man, died spiritually (thus taking upon Himself Satan’s nature), went to Hell, was “born again,” rose from the dead with God's nature again, and then sent the Holy Spirit so that the Incarnation could be duplicated in believers, thus fulfilling their calling to be little gods. Since we are called to experience this kind of life now, we should be successful in every area of our lives. To be in debt, then, or be sick, or (as is often taught) be left by one’s spouse, and not to have these problems go away by “claiming” God’s promises, shows a lack of faith. While certain aspects of the above doctrine may vary from teacher to teacher, the general outline remains the same in each case. Perhaps the above summary will be enough for some readers to convince them that the doctrine of the “faith” teachers is unbiblical. If more details in the way of documentation are required, or if some analysis of the biblical passages used by the “faith” teachers to support their views is needed, these can be found in a variety of materials, many of which are available from CRI. (http://www.equip.org/search/) |
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3 | When may a church compromise the Bible? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17301 | ||
I am sorry that you feel this way, but I respectfully disagree. I have not heard or read any of their teachings that support what you say. Everything I have read teaches obedience to God, and Salvation through His Son. Yes, they do believe in healing. Yes, they do believe in prosperity (being able to meet all needs whatever those needs may be, for the glory of God). Yes, they beleive in "claiming" God's promises for our lives. But they teach that you can only do this through knowledge. Getting in God's Word. Spending time in prayer. Coming to know God, and submitting to His will for your life. I fail to understand how that is not biblical. With respect, Kelkat |
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4 | When may a church compromise the Bible? | Hebrews | kalos | 17310 | ||
You disagree with what? That what I have cited in my previous post is what the Word Faith teachers actually teach and believe? I didn't make this up. Everything stated in the previous post regarding their teachings is documented. Or do you disagree that what they teach is dangerous, heretical doctrine? If you think their doctrine, as stated in the previous post, is Biblical and orthodox, that there is nothing objectionalbe in it, then I suggest you start from scratch and study the Bible to learn its fundamental, essential doctrines. The fact that you personally have not heard or read any of their teachings that I have presented doesn't necessarily mean anything. Have you read every publication of Copeland and Meyer? Have you read their every writing? Heard their every utterance? Have you seen every minute of every TV show they've preached on? Have you sat in every last meeting in which they have preached? Are you willing to you concede that they may have written or said something that you might not have heard or read? Your loyalty to them is supported by neither fact, logic nor scripture. |
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5 | When may a church compromise the Bible? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17362 | ||
My loyalty is not to a person, a denomination, or a doctrine. My loyalty is to the Word of God. Now, that said, if you would like to discuss this, I will. If you want to argue, I won't. Kelkat |
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6 | When may a church compromise the Bible? | Hebrews | kalos | 17366 | ||
What is there to discuss? You remain loyal to Kenneth Copeland and Joyce Meyer. Good for you. As for arguing, I wouldn't waste my time arguing about the dangerous and heretical teachings of the Word Faith movement. |
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7 | When may a church compromise the Bible? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17371 | ||
You do not know me, or my beliefs. You do not know my relationship to Kenneth Copeland or Joyce Meyers. You assume alot. I was hoping that maybe we could talk on a point by point basis. I am interested to know where you get your information. I am also interested in finding out more about this "Word Faith" movement. Kelkat |
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8 | When may a church compromise the Bible? | Hebrews | kalos | 17378 | ||
You write: You do not know me, or my beliefs. You do not know my relationship to Kenneth Copeland or Joyce Meyers. You assume alot. I was hoping that maybe we could talk on a point by point basis. I am interested to know where you get your information. I am also interested in finding out more about this "Word Faith" movement. Kelkat ******************************** I don't know you or your beliefs? I do not know your relationship to Copeland or Meyers? I assume a lot? I recently advised someone on the forum not to follow the teachings of Copeland or Meyers. You then wrote a reply in which you defended them and/or the Word Faith movement. Now you are saying I don't know your beliefs and I assume a lot? If you defend someone, is it not a fair assumption that you hold to their teachings and beliefs.? You want to talk on a point by point basis? When I wrote "You disagree with what? That what I have... kalos Tue 09/25/01, 11:18am," I asked specific questions to clarify what you disagreed with and what you meant? If you had chosen to answer them, it might have led to a dialogue. Instead you chose to ignore them. Where did I get my information was a question I answered in the original posting. It was answered when I included my sources in the Note. |
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