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1 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | GeorJoy | 90157 | ||
Thanks for your response Morgah. It is not my intention to spark a debate the subject as to whether or not the Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit are one in the same, for it is completely out of line with my question. However, based on my studies after having corrected my original wording of the question; not that it matters, but I would have to disagree with you, or rather, say that I feel that the word 'pneuma' may have simply been used metaphorically. In the KJV "Holy Ghost" is mentioned 89 times in the NT. O (zero) times in the OT. Whereas, "Holy spirit" is mentioned 4 times in the NT and 3 in the OT. Quoting from the KJV, John 7:39 says (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) Yes, the NIV replaces "Ghost with spirit." If one READS what it says in KJV, they will see that in Jn 7:39, it calls the Holy Ghost the spirit. The spirit which the believers were to receive, which hadn’t yet been given was the Holy Ghost. Considering the fact that the “Holy Ghost” had not been given yet, I can understand why it wouldn’t be mentioned in the OT. But, I believe it was mentioned therein, just not described as such. I think that if one will do as I have, (and do a “phrase” search on the two, and then study the verses they have searched out) they can but come to the same conclusion; That the Holy Ghost and The Holy Spirit are two completely different entities. Wouldn’t you consider that the word 'pneuma' could have been used metaphorically? Either way, this is beside the point, for I am convinced, and not here to debate that point. My question was, and is as follows; Can one have received the Holy GHOST and not know? I have yet to come to a conclusion based on scripture. George |
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2 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | Ray | 90206 | ||
Hi GeorJoy, I agree with Tim that the Greek has "pneuma" for all of the occurances which are translated Ghost or Spirit. So I do not see any difference between Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit. They are speaking of the third Person of the Trinity. However, I have spoken with Tim about how I see a difference between the Holy Spirit and the holy [sic] spirit [sic]. I differenciate between the Person and His gift(s). In answer to your question, I would say that in Acts 2:2,3 when the noise like a violent wind was heard and the tongues of fire were seen resting on each one of them, it is evident that knew what they had seen and heard. This is what had been promised by the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:33, "...He has poured forth this which you both see and hear." But what I believe we are filled with and receive is "holy spirit". From the heart, Ray |
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3 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | GeorJoy | 90218 | ||
Thanks for your response. I am now in the process of studying the book of Acts, I am well on my way to a definitive answer of my own. If one didn't know whether or not they had the Holy Ghost after what Acts 2 depicts. They would have to have a much harder head than I admittedly have. Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost; I feel they arw meatiphors, for there are 3 in the Godhead; the Father; the Son and the Holy Gost (spirit). As is spoken, "the spirit of man;" There is also the spirit of God, the spirit of Jesus and the spirit of the Holy Ghost as was previously noted herein. George |
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4 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | Ray | 90227 | ||
Hi George, John 4:24,NKJ, "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." John 4:25, NASB, "The woman said to Him, "I know that Messiah is coming (He who is called Christ); when that One comes, He will declare all things to us." 1) I give you these Scriptures for consideration in the respective translations to show how I interpret these things that you have been talking about according to pronouns of Deity. The NKJ has Spirit capitalized in John 4:24. I go with that because it allows us to see the difference between a spirit (an angel) and the Spirit (God). 2) I wrote out John 4:25 because it is an example of how a parenthesis is an explanation. In other words, it talks about the Messiah (He who is called Christ). I would like to comment on your parenthesis in the post I am answering. You describe "the Godhead: the Father; the Son and the Holy Ghost (spirit)". I would say that your parenthesis is not a good explanation of the Holy Spirit being a third Person of the Trinity. 3) I would also say that there is a difference between the spirit of man and the Spirit of God. When you speak of "the spirit of God, the spirit of Jesus and the spirit of the Holy Ghost" you are not using the capitalization interpretation of the NASB or NKJ. Romans 8 tells us that we should walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:9, "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him." From the heart, Ray |
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