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1 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | GeorJoy | 90042 | ||
Can one have recieved the Holy spirit and not know? I think so, but have no scriptural foundation. I know that "if understanding came before acceptance, we would accept very little in this life." However, one often accepts without understanding, even though he desires to understand, and that this is a hinderence at the very least. Please provide such foundation (not thoughts or opinion,)pro or con. George |
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2 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | Aspiring Overseer | 90043 | ||
Rom 8:1-11 8:1There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. 3For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4in order that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 5For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so; 8and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. 9However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10And if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who indwells you. NAS Can a person be in Christ and not know it? Can a person set his mind on the things of the spirit if he does not have the HS? Can a person set his mind on the things of the spirit unless he is in Christ? AO |
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3 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | GeorJoy | 90081 | ||
Ok. Many times, I have read what you have quoted. I see not an answer to my question therein. In my blissful ignorance, which is not due to any lack of biblical study, just a lack of study on this particular topic; I have determined that what I refer to is an additional gift such as is "wisdom, prophecy, toungs and the gift of interpritation." I know that there is a doctrinal issue here. I address this question only to those who are aware of and have experienced the utterance of toungs. Let me rephrase my question by replacing the word "spirit" with "ghost." Once again, I will reveal my ignorance by stating that although currently I have no biblical foundation for the following statement, I believe there is one. I (think) they, the Holy Spirit and The Holy Ghost are two completely different things. Correct me with scripture, if you will. Remove the splinter from my eye, (I AM NOT SAYING THAT ANYONE DOES, but) only if you have no mote in yours, please. Thanks George. |
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4 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | Morant61 | 90091 | ||
Greetings George! You wrote: "Once again, I will reveal my ignorance by stating that although currently I have no biblical foundation for the following statement, I believe there is one. I (think) they, the Holy Spirit and The Holy Ghost are two completely different things. Correct me with scripture, if you will. Remove the splinter from my eye, (I AM NOT SAYING THAT ANYONE DOES, but) only if you have no mote in yours, please." The English phrases 'Holy Spirit' and 'Holy Ghost' are both translations of the same exact Greek words. For some reason, I don't know why, the KJV choose to translate 'pneuma' or 'spirit' as 'ghost'. Newer translations translate the word 'pneuma' as 'spirit'. So, Biblically speaking, there is no difference between the two phrases. I hope this helps! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | GeorJoy | 90157 | ||
Thanks for your response Morgah. It is not my intention to spark a debate the subject as to whether or not the Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit are one in the same, for it is completely out of line with my question. However, based on my studies after having corrected my original wording of the question; not that it matters, but I would have to disagree with you, or rather, say that I feel that the word 'pneuma' may have simply been used metaphorically. In the KJV "Holy Ghost" is mentioned 89 times in the NT. O (zero) times in the OT. Whereas, "Holy spirit" is mentioned 4 times in the NT and 3 in the OT. Quoting from the KJV, John 7:39 says (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) Yes, the NIV replaces "Ghost with spirit." If one READS what it says in KJV, they will see that in Jn 7:39, it calls the Holy Ghost the spirit. The spirit which the believers were to receive, which hadn’t yet been given was the Holy Ghost. Considering the fact that the “Holy Ghost” had not been given yet, I can understand why it wouldn’t be mentioned in the OT. But, I believe it was mentioned therein, just not described as such. I think that if one will do as I have, (and do a “phrase” search on the two, and then study the verses they have searched out) they can but come to the same conclusion; That the Holy Ghost and The Holy Spirit are two completely different entities. Wouldn’t you consider that the word 'pneuma' could have been used metaphorically? Either way, this is beside the point, for I am convinced, and not here to debate that point. My question was, and is as follows; Can one have received the Holy GHOST and not know? I have yet to come to a conclusion based on scripture. George |
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6 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | Morant61 | 90174 | ||
Greetings George! You wrote: "Quoting from the KJV, John 7:39 says (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) Yes, the NIV replaces "Ghost with spirit." If one READS what it says in KJV, they will see that in Jn 7:39, it calls the Holy Ghost the spirit. The spirit which the believers were to receive, which hadn’t yet been given was the Holy Ghost." Yet, this verse illustrates my point. The word translated as 'ghost' in Jn. 7:39 and the word translated as 'spirit' in Jn. 7:39 by the KJV are both the same word - 'pneuma'. So, the verse actually reads: "(But this spake he of the 'pneuma', which they that believe on him should receive: for the 'pneuma' was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)" Now, since both terms are synonymous, the answer to your original question is found in Acts 2:38: "Peter replied, 'Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.'" So, I would say that one cannot receive the Holy Spirit without knowing it, since the Holy Spirit is given in response to repentence. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | GeorJoy | 90177 | ||
Thank you Tim Have you ever spoken in toungs as did those to whom these words were originally spoken? George |
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8 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | Morant61 | 90212 | ||
Greetings George! Yes! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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9 | Having yet not knowing one has | Romans | GeorJoy | 90219 | ||
Thank you Tim. Amoung the many, we are blessed. Some, more than others. According to ones acceptance. George |
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