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1 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 76200 | ||
Tim, Actual facts, right out of NWT. Jesus is the Son of God, not GOD Jehovah. Jesus himself says he is the Son of GOD. Why should I believe any different? And we know what the Son of God means. In the Old Testament, certain men and angels are called, sons of God. At the center of Jesus identity in the Fouth Gospel is his divine sonship. John 10:36. Which now brings us to a different subject. Did Jesus have a heavenly existence before he became man? Yes, he most certainly did. He is the first-born of all creation, all things were created through him and for him. He is before all things. But Jesus is not his Father Jehovah. This is what I believe and what the Bible tells me. |
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2 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 76204 | ||
Greetings Sisterkath! I notice that you keeping avoiding answering the question about Is. 43:10. The NWT says in John 1:1 that Jesus is 'a god'. Yet, Is. 43:10 says that there are no other gods. So, which is true? Because Jehovah's Witnesses are so set on avoiding the Biblical teaching that Jesus is God in the flesh, they have mistranslated John 1:1. But, in doing so, they have created a false doctrine which says that there is more than one God. Is. 43:10 is a clear statement. There isn't anything unclear about it. There isn't any controversy about it. It simply says that there are not any other gods. Jehovah is the only God. Now, John 1:1 says that Jesus is God. Therefore, Jesus must be Jehovah. Just out of curiosity, how does the NWT translate Is. 43:10? I also found it interesting the Is. 43:11 also says that there is no other savior. Yet, consider the following verses where Jesus is called our savior. Luke 2:11 - "Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord." John 4:42 - "They said to the woman, ??We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world.?" Acts 5:31 - "God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might give repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel." There are more, but especially Titus 2:13 where we are informed that Jesus is both God and Savior. "while we wait for the blessed hope?the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ," We can discuss later the relationship between God the Father and God the Son. But, the first step is to confront the fact that the NWT is teaching a false doctrine in John 1:1. Jesus cannot be another god in addition to Jehovah because Jehovah Himself said in Is. 43:10 that there are no other gods besides Him. So, my simple question to you my friend is this: Did He or did He not say in Is. 43:10 that there is no other god besides Him? If He did, then how can Jesus be another god? I ask you to prayerfully consider this for yourself. Don't go to a JW and ask them to explain it away. Just read Is. 43:10 and read John 1:1 in the NWT and ask yourself, "How can both be true?". They can't! This is a perfect example of why I am opposed to the NWT. It is not really a translation at all. It is a cult's attempt to make Scripture say what it wants it to say. Yet, in doing so, they contradict other clear Scriptures. Please consider this carefully! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | sisterkath | 76272 | ||
Hi Tim, Did he or did he not say in Is 43:10, that there is no other god besides him? If he did then how can Jesus be another god? Reply: Tim, there are many gods. But there is only One True GOD, Jehovah. Why wouldn't Jesus be a god? Isn't Satan the god of this world? At Isaiah 43:10. YOU are my witnesses, is the utterance of Jehovah, even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. Servant, the anointed God, El Or, and after me there came or, will come, to be none. NWT You are saying that Jesus is GOD ALMIGHTY. Maybe you can answer some of my questions. At Isaiah 53:10 it says, Yet it pleased Jehovah to bruise him, he hath put him to grief. Bruise WHO? HIMSELF? John 1:38 refers to the arm of Jehovah, at Is 53:1, here along with Is 40:10, we have the arm of Jehovah as being the messiah and differenitated from his Father. Jesus can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father doing, John 5:19. As the Father GIVES him knowledge and Revelation, Rev 1:1. But Jesus was even then limited in the knowledge given to him, But of that day or hour KNOWETH NO ONE, not even the angels of heaven, neither the son, but the Father only. Matt 24:36, Mark 13:32 If Jesus was one third of God, and the Father was another third of God, how is it possible that Jesus was ignorant of what another part of his Godhead was doing? If Jesus was simply ignorant in his human nature, then how can he, according to you, see John 20:28, be Almighty God in his human nature at the same time? How can he, according to the creeds, be fully God and fully man at the same time and still not know anymore than the angels? Is it perhaps that he was NOT God, but a representative of God who was simply given the power of agency? Does Matt 28:18 and Hebrews 1:3 say that Jesus is, all powerfull? And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, ALL authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth. Matt 28:18. Jesus is GIVEN all authory. Someone who is, all powerful, does not need to be given anything, who being the effulgence of his glory, and the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had made purifications of sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high. If the Scripture is indeed saying that Jesus is, all powerful, it is interesting that he only gets to sit on God's right hand, instead of in his stead. The angels sit at God's right hand, 1 Kings 22:19, 2Chron 18:18, and it is often a position of favor, 1 Kings 2:19, Ps 45:9, for royalty, but not one that is the ultimate power. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28, NIV. Then the end will come, when he hands over the Kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reigh until he has putt all his enemies under his feet. The lastenemy is death. For he has put everything under his feet. Now when it says that everything has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. Is Jesus handing over the Kingdom to himself? |
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4 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 76338 | ||
Greetings Sisterkath! Allow me to respond to your post in two ways. In my second post, I will address your questions with a basic explanation of the Trinity. In my first post, I will continue to challenge you to consider the implications of Is. 43:10. The reason I continue to pursue this issue is very simple. A correct understanding of the identity of Jesus is essential to one's salvation. Jesus Himself said in John 8:24, "I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins." The Greek of this verse literally says, "If you do not believe that I AM, you will die in your sins". I know that the JW's try to hide the fact that in John 8:58 Jesus refers to Himself as the "I AM" or Jehovah. They try to use the arguement that Jesus is referring to a time before Abraham, so grammatically, one must translate John 8:58 as 'I have been'. This is not true, but either way, there is no such issue involved in John 8:24. It is very clear that Jesus is calling Himself Jehovah, the I AM of Exodus. So, if the JW's convince you that Jesus is in fact not Jehovah, then according to John 8:24, you are still lost. So, I urge you again to read 1 Chron. 17:20, 2 Chron. 6:14, Is. 43:10, Is. 44:6-8, Is. 45:21-22, Is. 46:9, and Joel 2:27. These verse all affirm that there is no 'God' besides Jehovah. Now listen carefully my friend. I know that your inclination is to defend what the JW's have taught you, but read these verses carefully. They do not say that there are other lesser Gods. They do not say that there other Gods, but just not as powerful as Jehovah. They all say that there are NO GODS BESIDES JEHOVAH. To teach that Jesus is 'a god' is a direct violation of what Jehovah Himself has said over and over again. These verses are not vague, nor are they hard to understand. They are only a problem because you have bought into a false doctrine. You must believe that Jesus is the "I AM" in order to be saved. So, please, consider these verses carefully. These verse alone should be enough to expose the lie of the Jehovah's Witnesses. But, if you need more, consider Jesus in light of Is. 40:25, "To whom will you compare me? Or who is my equal? says the Holy One." If the JW's are right, and Jesus is a lesser god, how come He is described as equal to God, when Jehovah Himself says that He has no equals? John 5:18 - " For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God." Phil. 2:6 - "Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped," If you can't accept the clear statements of Scripture that there are no others gods besides Jehovah, then you will never be able to accept the salvation that is found only in Jesus. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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