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1 | Is God really just? | Deut 32:4 | Hank | 30552 | ||
Good evening, Indiana Tim! I'll present an Arkansas rustic illustration. Please critique it for me. --- There is a big fountain in the center of a desert. Its "living water" is available to all who wish to partake of it -- whosoever will may come and drink. In fact, the keeper of the fountain says to everyone who passes by, "Come and drink freely, the water is a gift from me. Drink and live forever." Some do. But many don't. They give various reasons. They laugh in disbelief and pass it by. They say they are not thirsty right now, but perhaps later. They don't think there is such a thing as "living water." They think there's a catch to it, etc. Those who drink live; those who refuse die. But the water is offered as a free gift to all. -- Tim, how far am I off base? Does my crude little "parable" remotely reflect your and the Arminian view? --Hank | ||||||
2 | Is God really just? | Deut 32:4 | Lionstrong | 30556 | ||
Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost. Hi Hank, As far as it goes, your illustration is a very good and biblical one as it applies to the offer of the Gospel. But illustrations can only illustrate so much. This one does not touch on the issue of this thread--the justice of God in the salvation of sinners. Peace, to you, Hank Lionstrong |
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3 | Is God really just? | Deut 32:4 | Morant61 | 30566 | ||
Greetings Lionstrong! Let's expand the illustration a bit then! If the Keeper of the Spring offers free water to whosoever will, is He then unjust because some reject it and die of thrist? Not as long as the offer is real, He isn't! He offered, and they refused. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Is God really just? | Deut 32:4 | Lionstrong | 30719 | ||
Matt 20:15 'Is it not lawful for me to do what I wish with what is my own? Or is your eye envious because I am generous?' Tim, to make this illustration appropriate to this thread I would set it up this way instead: If the Keeper did not offer his water freely to some who passed by, would he be just? My answer is yes, he would still be just, because that's what a gift is. A gift is given at the discretion of the giver not because of anything with respect to the recipient. Peace, Lionstrong |
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5 | Is God really just? | Deut 32:4 | Ray | 30812 | ||
Hi Lionstrong, I think that your Matthew 20:15 reference would deal more with His sovereignty in the realm of mankind than with His justice. Here again, Nolan's Daniel reference would be applicable in that "the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind, and bestows it on whomever He wishes." Daniel 4:26. We do recognize that Heaven rules and we accept our blessings in Christ with thanksgiving and the recognition that we didn't deserve it. So I would echo Daniel 4:37, "Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise, exalt, and honor the (King) of heaven, for all His works are truth and His ways justice, and He is able to humble those who walk in pride." And I think that this (King) is known through the (Rock), for "His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He." Later, Ray |
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6 | Is God really just? | Deut 32:4 | Lionstrong | 30839 | ||
Hey Ray! Those who had worked the whole day felt the landowner was being unjust by paying those who had worked only one hour a full day's wage. So the reference was appropriate to issue of justice and the prerogative of the One who extends mercy. Peace, Lionstrong |
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7 | Is God really just? | Deut 32:4 | Ray | 30846 | ||
Hi Lionstrong, The story was a matter of generosity and the landowner being able to do whatever he wanted to do with [or for] his own. There was no injustice for verse 13 says, "Friend, I am doing you no wrong; did you not agree with me for a denarius? Take what is yours and go your way, but I wish to give to this last man the same as to you." Jesus is saying in Matthew 19:29, "And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or farms for My names's sake, shall receive many times as much, and shall inherit eternal life." I am of the opinion that it is He who continues in Matthew 20:15, "Is it not lawful for Me to do what I wish with what is My own? Or is your eye envious because I am generous?"; thus completing or tying in His thoughts. The word envious according to my Study Bible is literally "evil" and the word generous is literally "good". This would bring the passage back to Matthew 19:17, "And He said to him, "Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments." Later, Ray |
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8 | Is God really just? | Deut 32:4 | Lionstrong | 30901 | ||
I don't think you are wrong in what you've written, Ray, except when say, "there was no injustice" meaning that this passage has nothing to do with the issue of justice. You're right, though. A major topic of this passage is generosity. Peace, Lionstrong |
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