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1 | Under the Law but not under water? | John 4:14 | Radioman2 | 103268 | ||
AO: You write: "Also, note that the thief on the cross did not die in the Christian age, but under the Law of Moses." My question is: Does this mean that under the Law there was no legal requirement to be baptized, but now that we are no longer under law there is such a legal requirement? If this were the case, then it would seem to be a contradiction. If we are no longer under Law, then why this new and additional legal requirement? --Radioman2 |
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2 | Under the Law but not under water? | John 4:14 | Aspiring Overseer | 103301 | ||
Radioman2, That is a fair question. What Law are Christians no longer under, but the Law of Moses. There was no requirement to be baptised under the Old Covenant, but there was several foreshadowings of the concept. Today, God's people receive their benefit, salvation, under a new law, the Law of Grace, established by the New Covenant. Part of that convenant is the command to be buried and resurrected like Christ. If Christ followed the commands of God, why should people today expect they can do anything less? AO |
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3 | Under the Law but not under water? | John 4:14 | Morant61 | 103333 | ||
Greetings AO! Isn't the phrase 'the Law of Grace' an oxymoron? Where exactly does Scripture speak of a 'Law of Grace'? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Under the Law but not under water? | John 4:14 | Hank | 103339 | ||
"Law of Grace" an oxymoron? Yes, indeed yes, it is! How can this amazing grace, this pure gift of God, (Ephesians 2:8) be wrapped in Law? No way, Brother Tim! No way. --Hank | ||||||
5 | Under the Law but not under water? | John 4:14 | Morant61 | 103341 | ||
Greetings Hank! I agree my friend! :-) I did a word search in my Bible program. The words 'grace' and 'law' only appear in the same verse eight times. Here are a couple of these verses. 1) Rom. 6:14 - "For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." 2) Gal. 2:21 - "I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!" 3) Gal. 5:4 - "You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace." Scripture makes a clear distinction between grace and law. There isn't an 'old law' and a 'new and improved law'. There is either law or grace. It can't be both. Most importantly though, Gal. 5:4 makes it clear that if we seek to be justified through law, then we have fallen away from grace. Yet, in spite of these clear Scriptures, so many want to make our salvation dependent upon our obedience to rules and regulations. :-( Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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6 | Under the Law but not under water? | John 4:14 | Hank | 103342 | ||
As you know already, salvation by works is a common thread that is found in most if not all pagan religions. Surely there must be a reason why this is so. I believe there is and it is this: From the time a child is old enough to understand language he is taught a system of rewards for being good and punishment for being bad. As he matures and enters the workplace, he is rewarded commensurate with his efforts. The harder he works, all things being equal, the more money he makes. This is the way natural man looks at life. And it is the way natural man looks at salvation. He must do something himself if he expects to be saved. He must exert effort of his own, he must be a good person and do good works in order to have any chance of being saved. This natural mind-set has spilled over into the theological thought of many churches and many professing Christians. Even though the clear teaching of the gospel of Christ is salvation by grace through faith in Christ -- and that alone -- many Christians are conditioned to think that this is too good to be true. They feel an urgent need to assist God in saving them. In their inward being they don't feel comfortable with the idea that God's grace is all-sufficient. So they go digging through Scripture to find out what they must DO. They come up with baptism, for example, and try to link baptism with justification, a linkage that Scripture simply doesn't support. Or they correctly tie regeneration with faith in Christ but make its continuance dependent upon good works: if good works are not maintained throughout one's life, his salvation is in jeopardy. This is, of course, tantamount to saying that faith saves but good works keep one saved. These concepts are the products of the way natural man is inclined to think, but they are not what the New Testament teaches about salvation. --Hank | ||||||
7 | Under the Law but not under water? | John 4:14 | Morant61 | 103343 | ||
Greetings Hank! I concur my friend! Well said! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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8 | Under the Law but not under water? | John 4:14 | Aspiring Overseer | 103345 | ||
Rom 3:26-27 27Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. NAS Rom 2:5-8 5But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation. NAS There will always be those who wish no effort was involved with salvation and I sincerely hope, for their sakes, they are correct. AO |
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9 | Under the Law but not under water? | John 4:14 | Morant61 | 103349 | ||
Greetings AO! I would much rather trust my eternal destiny to God's grace, than to my works! :-) Scripture is clear my friend! Paul was asked directly, 'What must I do to be saved?' (Acts 16:30). What was his response? Did he say that one must keep all kinds of rules and regulations? Did he say that one must live a perfect life? No! He said: "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved" (Acts 16:31). This is as direct of a question and a response as one can find in Scripture. No qualifications are added. No interpretation is necessary. No doubt is possible! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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