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1 | Are you His disciple? | Matt 16:24 | Wild Olive Shoot | 170737 | ||
Doc, it can be a call to death, but not in every case, otherwise, how does the rendering in Luke fit in? Daily? Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. WOS |
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2 | Are you His disciple? | Matt 16:24 | DocTrinsograce | 170743 | ||
Hi, Brother WOS... It would probably be easier if it were only physical death. However, as Christ instructed, "If any man come to Me, and hate not His father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple." (Luke 14:26) And again, "So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be My disciple." (Luke 14:33) Certainly there is a daily denial of self. I hadn't meant to refute what you were saying, only to expand upon it. In Him, Doc |
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3 | Are you His disciple? | Matt 16:24 | Wild Olive Shoot | 170756 | ||
Doc, I must apologize as in haste; I did not go back and read your first post on the subject. Had I, I would not have addressed you with the question in the fashion that I did. I truly respect your opinion and meant no disrespect in the way that I asked the question. Forgive me if I came across improperly Brother. My concern was that the phrase “take up your cross” was more or less being grossly misused to imply that we could only accomplish that in death for following our Savior. Please understand that I do not use the terms “grossly misused” lightly as this is how I see it when “cross” is limited to physical death and nothing else especially in light of great men who have devoted their life to God and His Word see it otherwise. John MacArthur stated that: “Taking up the cross refers to the willingness to endure persecution, rejection, reproach, shame, suffering, and even martyrdom for the sake of Christ.” It means the suffering we must endure in whatever manner it placed upon us and to whatever end is divinely determined. MacArthur also pointed out that “In our day we are not being martyred for our obedience to Christ, but we still must bear a reproach. Practicing self-denial means identify with Christ and naming His name up to and including the point of death.” Although there are some still being martyred, the gist of it is that physically, we will suffer persecution in diverse ways and must be willing, for our love of our Lord, to endure until we are crowned. And truly, this does not strictly mean death in all cases. That my friend was the point I wished to make. I would also like to remind all that we do not bear our crosses alone, for it is actually His cross and we carry it with His help. What a blessed partnership it is, knowing that Christ Himself will bear the heavy end of our cross for us. He traveled The Via Dolorosa with His long before any of us. He knows better and can truly guide us if only we let Him. WOS |
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4 | Are you His disciple? | Matt 16:24 | DocTrinsograce | 170757 | ||
Dear Brother WOS, I hadn't read anything disrespectful in your posts. Even if I had, I'm certainly not one deserving of respect! I'm a deeply flawed human being who calls upon God's mercy daily. If God had not Sovereignly seen to my salvation, I'm the kind of person you would have crossed to the other side of the street to avoid. I thoroughly agree with your posts on "taking up our cross." I've always found it interesting that Christ used this idiom well before He carried His own cross. Of course, God has a way of doing that sort of thing... setting up an idiom well before He gives us the most vivid and excruciating demonstration of it. In Him, Doc |
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