Bible Question: Okay I know that the way to become saved is to confess that Jesus died on the the cross to save us from our sins, and the bible may not say that "if we change our sinful ways we can be saved", but it does say that the wages of sin is death. I guess what I am asking is: If someone says they don't want to become saved because they know they are going to keep doing the things they are doing now, are they according to 1 Corinthians 5:1-13 correct in thinking that they will just be cast right back out as a hypocrite? |
Bible Answer: Quoting AMP Bible: 1 Cor 5:1 IT IS actually reported that there is sexual immorality [[among you KJV--YOU not thee--individual you in kjv age---kjv you--THE WHOLE CHURCH AS A UNITED COMMUNITY---]], impurity of a sort that is condemned and does not occur even among the heathen(--Gentiles-KJV --probably non-Christians n non-Jews since they gathered together in the same synagogues initially during the apostolic church age); for a man has [his own] father's wife. [Deut. 22:30; 27:20.] ... 1 Cor 5:4 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, on the man who has committed such a deed. When you and my own spirit are met together with the power of our Lord Jesus, 1 Cor 5:5 You are to deliver this man over to Satan for physical discipline [to destroy carnal lusts which prompted him to incest], that [his] spirit may [yet] be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 1 Cor 5:6 [About the condition of your church] your boasting is not good [indeed, it is most unseemly and entirely out of place]. Do you not know that [just] a little leaven will ferment the whole lump [of dough]? 1 Cor 5:7 Purge (clean out) the old leaven that you may be fresh (new) dough, still uncontaminated [as you are], for Christ, our Passover [Lamb], has been sacrificed. 1 Cor 5:8 Therefore, let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with leaven of vice and malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened [bread] of purity (nobility, honor) and sincerity and [unadulterated] truth. [Exod. 12:19; 13:7; Deut. 16:3.] 1 Cor 5:9 I wrote you in my [previous] letter not to associate [closely and habitually] with unchaste (impure) people-- 1 Cor 5:10 Not [meaning of course that you must] altogether shun the immoral people of this world, or the greedy graspers and cheats and thieves or idolaters, since otherwise you would need to get out of the world and human society altogether! 1 Cor 5:11 But now I write to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of [Christian] brother if he is known to be guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater [whose soul is devoted to any object that usurps the place of God], or is a person with a foul tongue [railing, abusing, reviling, slandering], or is a drunkard or a swindler or a robber. [No] you must not so much as eat with such a person. 1 Cor 5:12 What [business] of mine is it and what right have I to judge outsiders? Is it not those inside [the church] upon whom you are to pass disciplinary judgment [passing censuring sentence on them as the facts require]? 1 Cor 5:13 God alone sits in judgment on those who are outside. Drive out that wicked one from among you [expel him from your church]. i would agree basically with you and St. Paul!! if hypocrites, in Jesus' very coined words in THAT NEW CONTEXT, were to gatecrash into the Church forcefully not pretending they are sinners, we are to cast them out!! however, spirituality on a more glorious level would empower us with Spirit-Anointed Wisdom and Power to discern when and where to impose and not to, ie when and where possible, even to eat and drink with tax collectors to convert their inclinations, just as the Saviour of the World, Jesus did (Matthew 9:especially v10-13 Romans 5:8 1Timothy1:15) a caveat here. Matthew 23:2-3 v2."...the scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses seat 3. all therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do, but do not ye after their works, for they say, and (yet) do not"---kjv!!do pray over ephesians 4,Philipp.1 Philipp.1 KJV: v1 to all... saints... bishops 2 Grace be unto you, and peace... from God AND from Jesus 3 i thank my God upon every remembrance of you 4. always in every prayer of mine for you all making request with joy (emphasis on you ALL or ALL OF YOU reminds us of JCs last words, Father, forgive them, for they know not all they do 5. For your fellowship IN THE GOSPEL... v14: And many of the brethren in the Lord, waxing confident by my bonds, are much more bold to speak the word without fear study the follow-up vs 15-18 you should not fear what evil will come of you and your church should the excommunicated backfire in revenge. the Lord keep you in His love, grace and peace as you demonstrate the full outworking of the gospel of real concrete salvation i trust from what you wrote you are a serious Christian, though troubled by this or other issues, how could i help you more? nb if you dont think much of this answer, pray over it and seek others' counsel. this is my first answer ever in my Christian life of nearly 30 years in a www forum, not face-to-face i have no formal theological training i am a lay Bible student who self-studies especially what Zondervan publishes. Zondervan is my favourite publishing house. i like its scholasticism. however i think most readers who buy its reference works dont quite understand much. i am here to help, and i hope this community welcomes and appreciates my presence |