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Bible Note: Greetings Truthfinder! In other words my friend, even though Is. 44:6 and 45:5 say that there are no other 'elohim', you say that there are in fact other 'elohim'. In fact, you tried to pull a bait and switch on us. Is. 44:6 and 45:5 do not use the term 'mighty God', they both use 'elohim' - Strong's number 430. Yet, in your response, you say: "Yes, you are exactly correct as far as I am concerned. Isa. 44:6 and 45:5 tells us there is only one God (mighty one) to us that should be viewed as the Supreme God, Almighty God, The Father." But, these two verses do not use the term 'mighty one', they both use 'elohim'. Neither do these two verses say that 'for us' there is only one 'elohim' who should be 'viewed' as the supreme God. They both say that there 'are no other elohim' - period! You then said: "Recognizing Jesus as a Mighty One (Elohim) is not polytheistic as long as he is not viewed as the Almighty One." But, now you have totally ignored the clear statements of Scripture which say that there are no other 'elohim'. The following verses all say that there are no other 'elohim': a) Is. 44:6 - "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." b) Is. 45:5 - "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:" c) Is. 45:21 - "1Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me." d) Is. 46:9 - "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me," These are very simple and direct declarations. They do not say that God is the greatest of the 'elohim'. They say that He is the only 'elohim'. Therefore, when Scripture also says that Jesus is God, He must be the only 'elohim' as well. So, who is contradicting Scripture my friend? Further, your whole discussion about Egypt is a strawman. They (and you) believed in many gods, we only believe in One God! We don't teach, nor do we believe that Jesus is one God and the Father is another. Scripture is quite clear that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are God, not gods. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |